Today we can choose from almost three dozen such machines. And perhaps the most peculiar of them - "Discovery". There is definitely no other like it!
cute things
From the very beginning - and the car made its debut almost a quarter of a century ago, in September 1989 - Discovery was conceived as more affordable alternative pathos "Range Rover". In 1998, in his second generation, he surprised the world with a whole arsenal of tools incorporated into his design, the meaning of which was to ensure that success on the road was minimally dependent on the driver's qualifications. Needless to say, the car turned out interesting. However, true to national traditions, the British made it too original, rewarding it with a whole scattering of features. For example, you had to squeeze through narrow doors into a luxuriously decorated salon, the driver propped up the side window with his elbow, and climbing onto the sofa, you risked hitting the top of your head on the lintel and rested your knees on the back of the front seat.
Only eight years ago, in the third edition, "Disco" came close to its luxurious relative, getting rid of many of the above "cute things" that have always been the originality of English cars, for which some people love them, while others cannot stand them. It has become larger, more solid, the noble finish has adorned the spacious and comfortable lounge. Thanks to independent suspension, which replaced continuous beam bridges, a pair of new, powerful and high-torque engines, the largest Land Rover began to drive on asphalt with pleasure. And yet, he did not lose a bit of British originality - blind-eyed instruments, uncomfortable seat adjustment knobs, and the rear window literally attracting dirt ...
Of course, each new generation of Land Rover was significantly more expensive than the previous one. So when in the fall of 2009 the Discovery-4 saw the light with two new engines and really luxurious salon, from the former availability, albeit relative, only memories remained. Accordingly, the sales of "Disco" in Russia decreased by as much as three times.
What is the price?
In 2008, "Disco-3" was given for 1.5 million rubles, for the "fourth" year later they asked for 400 thousand more. And now the price race continues. The car went up in price last year, and has increased in price since this spring. Today admission ticket to the club of owners of "Disco" costs from 1,999,000 rubles. Yes, even the basic version of S cannot be called austere: a 190-horsepower diesel engine, an “automatic”, light alloy wheels, a radio tape recorder, climate control, air suspension and an autonomous pre-heater.
However, “xenon”, leather, parking sensors, all kinds of heating and other attributes of “Dolce Vita” in this version cannot be obtained even for a surcharge. Imagine, you bought an expensive house in a pine forest near Moscow near a pond, and inside it is finished plastic panels co construction market! After all, the British do not offer any equipment that will revive the fabric-polyurethane interior of the S configuration.
Meanwhile, the SE version is as expensive as half a million! I must admit, in terms of equipment, this is a car of a completely different order. In his arsenal leather interior, parking sensors, cruise control, 7-inch touch screen on the front panel, heated all seats, a photochromic mirror and an abundance of lighting in the cabin, including legroom and door handles. And a stereo system with a total power of 380 W can entertain your entire elite village. In addition, SE allows you to order any of more than fifty options. In this list you will find not at all useless for a practical SUV active rear differential and roof rails.
Considering that the Discovery is not a car that is bought with the last money, it is hardly worth dropping below the SE. We consider it to be optimal. Moreover, only it opens up the opportunity to get the most suitable, in our opinion, 3-liter 245-horsepower diesel engine. Yes, he is a whole 161 thousand rubles. more expensive than the base one, but by the standards of prices of an initially expensive brand, this is by no means an exorbitant premium. In addition, looking ahead, I must say that the pleasure is worth it.
The HSE version for an additional 171 thousand offers front parking sensors, "xenon", electric front seats and steering wheel, a sofa that will fold in a proportion not 40/60, but more practical - 35/30/35. If you only need individual elements of this set, it is more profitable to supplement SE with them. But all together is naturally cheaper at HSE.
Exclusively in the top version, you can order a surround view system and keyless entry, a TV, and even more expensive leather to decorate not only chairs and doors, but also the front panel. The price tag in this case is close to three million. But that's not all: the 5.0HSE version starts at 3,059,000. For Disco, the gasoline V8 is a prestige engine, in total mass such cars make up only a few percent of sales, and even more so, spending is not particularly considered here.
As you can see, the price tag of even the optimal "Disco" bites - and how! It is lower than that of the Mercedes-Benz-ML, but higher than the Prado and Tuareg. Also note that dealers are not averse to using your generosity. Others in February, when ordering a car in 2012 for the optimal 3.0SE, asked from 2,753,000 rubles. - 105 thousand more than the price recommended by the representative office. And in order to keep the buyer, who noticed the catch, they gave a discount, as they say, from the "cloak".
Here are the prices indicated by the importer.
Outside and inside
The appearance of "Disco" is his undoubted strong point. It is large and solid, but by no means pretentious, not emphatically brutal, but rather restrainedly aristocratic. Almost in every detail of the sculpturally elaborated body, the breed is felt. In the current incarnation, the designers only emphasized all the advantages of the car. Headlights and rear lights bristled with fireworks of LEDs, and the barely changed front fenders flaunt matte air intake inserts. Now it looks more like a Range Rover than ever before.
In addition, unlike most fellow competitors, the Land Rover knows how to inspire that it has excellent off-road capabilities. Huge (at least 18 inches) wheels, short overhangs, bumpers and sills, trimmed with unpainted solid plastic, feigned solidity of a high landing - it’s not scary to go into reconnaissance with this, and you can pass for your own on an expensive party. The car not only seems, but is actually one of the tallest among the universal off-road vehicles. Even without roof rails, she is 1.89 m tall in the normal air suspension position.
True, after the very first kilometers of the way, one of the “cute British things” nevertheless shows through - like a birthmark, without which a Land Rover is not a Land Rover. Korma still attracts dirt to itself like a magnet, so visiting car washes can become almost a daily routine. The impressive height also predetermined another feature: it is very difficult for obese people to climb into the cabin. The task could be facilitated by grippy handles on the front and center pillars, which have long been on many off-road vehicles. But there are none on Disco.
The sofa is not very comfortable either. It's spacious enough for three adults, and there's even more headroom than the front. However, the pillow is almost flat, a bit low and almost horizontal, and the back cannot be adjusted in terms of the angle of inclination. If the seats are trimmed in leather, then in long road from such a slippery throne one inevitably slips.
But unexpectedly pleased with the "gallery". "Disco" is perhaps the only SUV where a couple of heroes 190 cm tall can travel in the third row. It’s a pity that third-row seats are not cheap on their own, and they are also sold only with additional climate control - be kind enough to lay out 88,500 rubles. Fortunately, you won’t have to pay extra for heating the sofa, individual cup holders and ceiling lights, air ducts with adjustable deflectors in the 7-seater SE.
We load suitcases
This elite stallion can be turned into a draft horse for transporting as many as 2.5 cubic meters of all sorts of things. The sofa is transformed easily and simply: pull the lever - the back is folded, then pull the ribbon under the pillow and lower the resulting “sandwich” lower and forward. By doing this procedure with all the seats except the front ones, you will create a polygon 1.9 by 1.1 meters, which can also be used as a double bed.
However, remember that the feed will be permanently dirty. Considering that the floor of the car is high and the trunk is deep, it is very difficult not to get your clothes dirty when loading / unloading. The task, however, is a little easier if you make the Disco sit down: the air suspension allows you to lower the floor by 55 mm.
Behind the wheel
The lower level of pneumatics should also be used to enter the salon. After all, even crouched to the ground "Disco" remains high. The principle “I look farthest” is just about the Disco driver. At the same time, it is very comfortable to sit here: the elbows rest against the correct armrests, and in the back and hips you feel unobtrusive, but confident support. The design of the chair is well thought out and is characterized by an abundance and breadth of adjustments.
And the “throne room”, in general, corresponds. You can be a little blind and suffer from a chronic runny nose, but this aroma - this intoxicating spirit of soft, thick, noble and, of course, expensive leather, exuded not only by armchairs, but also by door trim, will impress anyone. Yes, gentlemen, quite another matter! Do not misunderstand: the interior of the previous "Disco" was very good. Only now it has a real luster. This is how a smoking pipe made of real Mediterranean briar shines, on which, after finishing polishing, a layer of refractory carnauba wax was applied! The color and dressing of the skin, the materials of the various inserts must be specified when ordering. At the same time, a wide tunnel between the chairs will in any case flaunt rich decoration. The visual devices with inscriptions in white on black, and the large screen of the Russian-language on-board computer will surely please the eye.
If you opted for the SE version or older, you'll also get a touchscreen display, which is conveniently implanted into the center console between the round air duct deflectors. Moreover, an impressive abundance of service functions practically does not complicate management - whether it be manipulations with a radio tape recorder, a TV, a quintet of all-round cameras, intelligent navigation or a 3-zone “climate”. Yes, and most of the tips electronics gives out in Russian.
It is a pity, however, that even on the most expensive versions, the front panel creaks when pressed lightly. There is still more plastic under the skin here than in the best modern machines claiming a premium. However, "Land Rovers" are all like that - a real fan of "Disco" will have to come to terms with this.
Moreover, the car has oddities more serious. There is a lot of legroom here. However, if the driver's shoes are larger than size 43, then by transferring your foot from the brake to the gas, you risk touching the ledge under the steering wheel. The front panel has two convenient glove boxes lined with velvet on the inside. But for some reason they are devoid of internal illumination. To find out the frequency of the radio station, you will have to turn off the navigation - otherwise the radio is not displayed on any screen. By pulling the right steering column lever, turn on not the front washer, but the rear one. The front button is at the end of the switch. And to fold the mirrors, you need to simultaneously press the left and right electric control buttons. Oh those cute little things...
On the roads…
However, it is easier to get used to them the more you drive Disco. A more pleasant off-road vehicle is still to be found! Any of the diesels strikes with the quietest work. Since last year, all versions have been sold with us only with a 6-speed automatic transmission, which nullifies the sin characteristic of any turbodiesel - unnecessary harshness when going from idle to effective turbine speed. At the same time, the base 2.7-liter diesel accelerates the Disco quite confidently and more smoothly than you expect. You should not expect special fanaticism from him, even if you mercilessly stomp the gas pedal - a certain heaviness when picking up speed accompanies the car from the first meters of the path. And if on the highway, without lowering the tachometer needle below 2000 rpm, you can achieve well-known agility from Disco, then in the city it is harmonious only in the hands of a leisurely driver. Acceleration of almost 13 s to a hundred is good for a pickup truck, but not for a jeep with a claim to premium.
With a 3-liter diesel engine, Disco has a much more frisky disposition. The increase in power here is not so great, but the torque is almost one and a half times more. Even from 140 km/h the car rushes forward with inspiring enthusiasm. You understand that 180 km / h is forcibly limited by electronics. And the roar of such a motor with increasing speed becomes much more intense and aggressive. But this rage is always under control, if you want to sedately crawl with everyone together in the general stream, you just need to stroke the gas pedal.
After such a wonderful diesel, the advantages of an even more powerful petrol version become much less obvious. True, if diesels are quiet, then the gasoline V8 is almost silent! At least at idle closed windows you need to listen very carefully to understand if the motor is working. And, of course, the nameplate V8, it's like a general's lamp, peeking out from under the front overcoat.
Any "Disco" stands on a straight line very confidently. And in corners, the car remains clear: it rolls as expected and confidently keeps on an arc. The air suspension quickly dampens any vibrations and perfectly isolates the body from impacts even on serious potholes. On the steering wheel, too, does not present any road surprises. In terms of comfort in motion, the Discovery is comparable to the best of its competitors. And in terms of the energy intensity of the suspension, it follows the leader in this discipline, the Mercedes-Benz-GL, and ahead of the Tuareg.
But in terms of fuel consumption, all Discoveries are different. With a petrol V8, you will have to count on 20-30 liters, depending on traffic jams and driving style. Of the diesels, it is more economical, and more powerful. On a free highway, I easily managed to trample down its consumption of only 8.7 liters per hundred - an excellent result for a 2.5-ton colossus. The base one, in the same unhurried modes, eats up almost 2 liters more. Only if you press the gas heartily, both swallow an average of 15-17 liters.
…and without them
A high body, built on an integrated frame, immediately inspires confidence - Disco can do a lot on off-road. Ground clearance of 240 mm is already good. The air suspension can lower it by 55 mm, and raise it above the ground up to 290 mm before off-roading. At the same time, all the giblets under the bottom do not hang below the thresholds, so it is quite difficult to damage them. And rushing along the primer generously covered with snow, I almost paid for my recklessness.
At the beginning of the country road swept by the March blizzard, the snow was up to the hub, but after a couple of hundred meters the bumper worked like a bulldozer knife. Moreover, the snow crust has become denser. As a result, "Disco" lifted clouds of snow into the air and froze. However, it was not necessary to measure the snowdrifts with our feet - the Terrain Rispons and the air suspension helped out.
With the smartest electronic-mechanical control system for all-wheel drive, differential locks and torque supply to the wheels, the driver who does not even have the slightest idea about off-road driving will feel like a skilled jeeper. In total there are 4 modes for different type ground: asphalt, snow/gravel/grass, sand and stones. You can select them with a grip washer on the central tunnel. On the screen on-board computer the machine gives prompts in Russian. Do not neglect the powerful (2.93: 1) downshift, it helps a lot when driving in tension.
To wrest "Disco" from captivity, I used the "Snow" mode and another tricky trick, which I would not have known about without reading the instructions. This method is useful when, with a clearance of 29 cm, the car still sits on its belly. You need to hold the button for increasing the clearance for more than three seconds and press the brake pedal several times, and the Disco will rise another 20 mm. Ground clearance 31 cm is a record for universal off-road vehicles.
By the standards of machines devoid of special off-road training, the Land Rover's capabilities are impressive. A permanent four-wheel drive and more durable than any crossover suspension allows you to count on enviable durability even with frequent off-road tests. Just remember that good jeep data is a double-edged sword. Believing that the machine can do a lot, the owners sometimes go where not every tractor will pass.
Safety
Discovery-4 did not participate in the EuroNCAP tests, but the third one, structurally similar to it, earned 31 points and four stars there three years ago. The lack of knee airbags and the increased load on the driver's chest during a frontal impact prevented the car from becoming an honors student.
The overall level of equipment with passive safety equipment in the current car is more than worthy. All versions are equipped with front, side and window cushions for all three rows. For attaching child seats on the sofa, isofix loops are provided, and in order to carry babies in front with their backs forward, it is possible to turn off the front airbag. Yes and with active safety everything is good: powerful disc brakes with emergency brake booster, systems dynamic stabilization and assistance on descents and ascents. Is it adaptive xenon headlights will have to be ordered separately.
Operation, service
And here high costs MOT cannot be avoided in any case. Not only is the service itself very expensive - already on the first one you will have to leave 22,000 rubles, and by the fourth, when without fail change not only all filters, brake fluid, wiper blades, but also the oil in the gearbox, prepare 62-65 thousand. So you also have to go to the dealer every 12 thousand or every six months! Otherwise, you will lose the warranty - 3 years or 100,000 km.
Even with the most modest runs for 3 years, lay out two hundred, or even more than a thousand. Mercedes-Benz ML, Lexus GX, even Porsche Cayenne are cheaper to maintain.
Knowing this, other dealers promise to do the first two MOTs at Disko for free: this way you can save up to 60 thousand. Wherein qualified assistance the car will be able to provide in 28 cities of Russia. In Moscow, these are 7 centers, in St. Petersburg - 3.
WE DECIDED:
"Discovery-4" is one of the most thoroughbred, roomy and, perhaps, the most comfortable mid-size universal all-terrain vehicle in Russia. It is a pleasure to ride every day and anywhere. And with the optimal 3-liter diesel engine, it is also a very lively comrade. However, frequent rise in price, lack of relatively available version With gasoline engine and exorbitant service prices have made the once quite popular jeep an expensive toy for a very wealthy person. With the exception of basic version, buy such a car mainly for love, not really considering anyone's opinion.
Krueger 26-09-2011 15:27
Comrades! Help dissuade a person from buying this unit
http://cars.auto.ru/cars/used/sale/13023069-6a187.html
Itching from him, panimaishshshsh. I tell him that it's better to find a car closer, and not a Land Rover, but him in any. Stuck on the horn. He now has a Mitsu Pajero Junior and he sells it for 210 tyr, and here such a freebie Already 200 tyr. And he doesn't listen to arguments. By the way, he wants to drive under his own power from Moscow to Magnitogorsk. Psychic wail. So, shall we answer together or let him suffer?
Or here
http://cars.auto.ru/cars/used/sale/13035691-f218c6.html
A little more expensive, but bullshit.
Himoza 26-09-2011 18:20
As for the machine itself, xs, but in the first version, only wheels and a bumper cost almost half of the indicated price tag.
IvanS 26-09-2011 22:35
The man clearly wrote that he was selling simex and tank headlights, and the car was included as a bonus.
Krueger 27-09-2011 08:14
Well, is it worth driving 1700 km behind this free application or is it not worth it?
IvanS 27-09-2011 10:35
Just take my word for it, it's not worth it. There are very few living dodins and they are not sold, but inherited,
Krueger 27-09-2011 12:37
IvanS, thanks, poked his nose into the topic. He got sad.
Voices 01-10-2011 18:21
if a person has free money that he can afford to pour into the car, then let him take it.
+Mobil 01-10-2011 23:33
bumpers, winches, huge wheels - this adds a lot in terms of self-assertion, BUT the car should be alive first of all and then these goodies
big wheels - this is an additional load on the transmission
if this money is not the last from a friend, then you need to take it, because Discovery is a very convenient clunker, but gasoline if they are in good condition they eat from 15 liters, if not very much from 20, diesel engines 10-12
Krueger 05-10-2011 08:24
Thanks for the advice! He stopped drooling along the Disco for a thousand and a half miles. Began to look within 500 km and Toyota Hilux. Let's see what it finds
+Mobil 05-10-2011 12:47
a car at the age of any manufacturer is a pig in a poke, another thing is a new car, unless of course there are enough babushiki
Krueger 05-10-2011 13:42
He is looking for exactly at the age of thousand for 200-250
kontor 10-10-2011 21:20
quote: He is looking for exactly at the age of thousand for 200-250
Jeeps show him) For the specified amount, you can pick up a Grand of the first generation that does not require large investments.
perstkov 11-10-2011 21:53
When I sold this one for 4 tons of greenery, I was incredibly happy. I do not advise a gas fighter with unrealistically expensive and rare consumables.
Cardanius 26-12-2011 21:54
I own a shaggy but prepared disco1 94g.v. and I want to say that the price tags for consumables are adequate and not at all rare (at least in the suburbs). The most expensive price tags for consumables are on Mitsubishi !!!
boss 27-12-2011 17:44
quote: Originally posted by +Mobil:
at this age, LR often eats up bodywork with rust
It has an aluminum body. Went on this in the same years.
taxisidemist los 28-12-2011 01:14
I'm also thinking about Discovery 1. I thought if gasoline, then put HBO on it. What can you say about diesels? If 10-12 liters, then this is very acceptable. Moreover, consumables write that they are inexpensive ...
taxisidemist los 28-12-2011 01:39
I expect a total budget of 250k. And of the SUVs of the year 97, only Kia Sportage or Hyundai Galloper (most likely diesel) fit like Suzuki Vitara. If older only considered discovery
Jinn07 29-12-2011 23:48
quote: I'm thinking about Discovery 1 too.
Like this.
taxisidemist los 30-12-2011 12:37
quote: I have an employee at work will be selling this in a couple of weeks.
'94, diesel. Three thousand passed...
He wants two hundred for him, but I think he will throw off twenty.
He rides it every year for long distances.
Last year I went to the Kola Peninsula.
Eats less than ten liters of solarium.
It starts up in any frosts, and my second Disco after -20 is nivkakuyu.
No one has ever climbed into the engine.
Like this.
Interesting ... Is the car not prepared for off-road?
Jinn07 30-12-2011 14:19
quote:
No.
Standard car.
Two sets alloy wheels.
The condo is working.
Webast does not work and was removed for repairs, but never handed over, because. in cold weather it starts up fine without it.
Two batteries on it.
the bottom of the doors and back door sewn up with trendy aluminum.
This year the owner changed her brake lines.
In the past, I changed the crosspieces.
I don’t know anything else, if you’re interested I can give his bodies. - write in a personal.
Jinn07 30-12-2011 18:23
quote: The car is not prepared for off-road?
No. Standard car.
Two sets of alloy wheels, the air conditioner works, it is sewn up with fashionable aluminum along the waterline.
Cardanius 30-12-2011 19:23
quote: Originally posted by Jinn07:
sewn up with trendy aluminum along the waterline
not so much fashionable as practical!!! I will also sew mine up with corrugated aluminum)
taxisidemist los 06-01-2012 22:32
If the mileage is already over 300 .., then how much more can it go without problems?
Cardanius 07-01-2012 16:56
well, it depends on how to use the car ... by the way, there is (at least on my DiUan) a sore spot - the left steering column switch - with enviable regularity requires a bulkhead, yesterday it failed again (((
Jinn07 07-01-2012 18:44
quote: If the mileage is already over 300 .., then how much more can it go without problems?
Problems on any machine begin after a hundred thousand.
Sometimes even earlier.
Only saves from problems new car With full insurance, and then partially.
Digging Def 24-01-2012 12:07
quote: Originally posted by Cardanius:
well, it depends on how to use the car ... by the way, there is (at least on my DiUan) a sore spot - the left steering column switch - with enviable regularity requires a bulkhead, yesterday it failed again (((
Does it melt? On my Defe, the dimensions / middle switch levers gradually melted, tk. For some reason, there was power management there. I solved the problem by introducing relays there
The third generation of Range Rover (index L322) was a turning point for the entire Brand Land Rover. Appearing back in 2002, the model impressed everyone with its size and luxury, eclipsing even the elite German competitors. A yacht on wheels - that's what it is called in all countries.
The design still looks modern and monumental. In August 2002, the novelty debuted on Paris Motor Show, and by the end of the year, the first copies of the model were delivered to customers.
The highlight of the third-generation Range Rover is that, having become luxurious, it has not lost its off-road qualities. Four-wheel drive, although it does not have mechanical interlocks, but "smart" electronics, coupled with pneumatic elements that change the clearance and a flat bottom, are able to start this car much further than other competitors.
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At the time when the model was being developed, that is, in the late 90s, Land Rover belonged to BMW, so the SUV borrowed a number of components and parts from the 5th (E39) and 7th (E38) series of those years.
Officially, at the start of sales, only a 4.4-liter V-shaped 8-cylinder M62 engine with a return of 286 hp was supplied to us. from BMW. Diesel in-line "six" M57 with a volume of 2.9 liters (177 hp) from the same Bavarians was imported bypassing official suppliers gray dealers or the owners themselves.
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As you know, in 2000 Land Rover joins the Ford family motor company, becoming a "relative" of the Jaguar. The Bavarian heritage was gradually getting rid of, and in the course of restyling, Range Rover lost both BAM engines. The base gasoline unit was the V-shaped "eight" AJ-V8 from Jaguar with a capacity of 306 hp. Interestingly, the volume remained the same as it was - 4.4 liters. A version of the same AJ-V8, but with a compressor and a slightly reduced cylinder diameter (which reduced the volume to 4.2 liters), already produced 396 hp.
The German diesel engine was changed to a Ford 3.6-liter V8 of the AJD series, developed jointly with the French from Peugeot-Citroen. In 2009, it was replaced by a 4.4-liter V8 of the same AJD series, and the 5-liter AJ133 V8 with 510 hp, familiar from the modern Range Rover, became the top-end gasoline engine. - the third generation of the Jaguar AJ-V8 series.
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Offers on the market
Looking on the Internet and looking for listings for sale, you might be surprised to see that the price of a used Range starts at 400,000 rubles! Yes, these will be the cars of the first years and rather "weak", but still the Range Rovers. Impeccable interior and appearance, low mileage, and all this for price Lada Granta? Very attractive. But let's not rush.
Average Range Rover Prices
| Year of issue | average price, rub. | Average declared mileage, km |
| 2002 | 542 000 | 178 000 |
| 2003 | 573 000 | 193 000 |
| 2004 | 617 000 | 202 000 |
| 2005 | 684 000 | 138 000 |
| 2006 | 799 000 | 161 000 |
| 2007 | 950 000 | 138 000 |
| 2008 | 1 149 000 | 131 000 |
| 2009 | 1 408 000 | 115 000 |
| 2010 | 1 775 000 | 86 000 |
| 2011 | 2 288 000 | 70 000 |
| 2012 | 2 709 000 | 71 000 |
Engine
In total, about 65% of cars on the market have gasoline engines and 35% - diesel.
As we have already said, most of the used Range Rover cars are equipped with a 4.4-liter gasoline engine in the form V-shaped eight in 286 "horses". The engine is traditionally inclined to eat up oil, the level of which must be monitored regularly. At least once every two years it is necessary to clean the throttle valve.
All diesel engines are very sensitive to fuel quality. The weak point is the high-pressure fuel pump, which, due to poor diesel fuel, can "die" very quickly. On average, on our fuel, it can withstand about 100,000 - 120,000 km. But it is enough to roll a full tank of diesel Low quality, and the end of the pump. Officials say that the pump is not repairable, although, given a certain risk, you can try to sort it out at an independent specialized service.
Silencer provided good fuel(whether gasoline or diesel) can last up to 150,000 km. All engines are equipped with a timing chain and change them only by stretching, which usually happens by 150,000 - 200,000 km.
Transmission
As we said, the Range Rover has a lot of off-road capability. Downshifting and all-wheel drive, implemented through a Torsen differential with an interaxle lock, are responsible for cross-country ability. mechanical problems not with these systems, but sometimes the electronics fail, which is discussed below.
Since 2007, the Terrain Response system has appeared on the Ranges, when the driver simply selects the type pavement, and the system itself tuned the suspension and transmission. Also, the car received an electronically controlled lock on the rear cross-axle differential. The blocking motor used to "die" already in the first year of life. At the same time, the car lowered the air suspension to the lower position, and the malfunction lamps of the most different systems. The motor itself, according to the officials, again needs to be changed as an assembly.
In all years, the Range Rover was equipped with ZF automatics: until 2005, it was a five-speed version of the ZF5HP22 and ZF5HP24, then, after switching to Ford engines, there was a six-speed ZF6HP26, and from 2010 to 2012, an eight-speed automatic transmission was already on the 4.4-liter V8 turbodiesel. It makes sense to change the oil in this box every 50,000 km, and renew the lubricant in the "razdatka" at the same interval.
Suspension
On all machines there is no alternative air suspension. Although cars on conventional springs are rare, the owners carried out such tuning on their own.
The air suspension itself is generally more reliable than on German classmates, and air bellows, with careful handling, can easily cross the line of 150,000 km. But in order to achieve this result, one must not forget to regularly rinse the cylinders from sand and salt, especially in winter.
The weak point of the suspension is the body position sensors, which are located on each rack. Fortunately, they are inexpensive. The suspension itself consists of two arms on each wheel, and they can travel up to 200,000 km. Although the hubs may require replacement as early as 50,000 km.
But problems with the steering rack can be very serious, since by 100,000 km it may already begin to knock, and by 150,000 km it may even require replacement. It is not regulated and cannot be repaired by authorized dealers.
And it is necessary to mention the cruel joke that the soundproofing of the cabin plays with the owners and which the owners write about on the forums. Since extraneous noise from the outside rarely penetrates the car, owners often do not hear knocks and hums coming from suspension components that need to be replaced. Periodically roll down the windows and listen for extraneous sounds.
Body and interior
The body of the Range Rover is partially aluminum. Rust can be found only on the bottom and in inconspicuous places, but in general with the quality of processing body metal the British have always been good, and problems should not arise. But you should not rely on the "eternity" of aluminum. After an accident, body parts change entirely and cannot be straightened. And if the craftsmen were illiterate and used, say, copper or brass rivets during assembly, then because of them, the aluminum part simply crumbles and collapses over time.
There are no complaints about the salon. Although the leather is of fine manufacture, it is quite durable, and you can hardly hear squeaks and “crickets” in the cabin.
electrical equipment
Range Rover owners have enough problems with electrical equipment. Who does not lower the car from top position, whose on-board computer screen does not work, someone complains about a failed air conditioner or a non-working interaxle blocking. Almost always, it is not the node itself that is to blame for these breakdowns, but some the electronic unit responsible for its administration. There are no obvious weak points, but anything can fail.
Sometimes problems were solved by a simple flashing, but often it was necessary to change the blocks completely. Therefore, before buying, it is mandatory to diagnose all errors. Moreover, it can also be repaired at specialized independent service stations (due to great demand quite a lot of qualified services appeared for repairs), but it’s better to diagnose it at dealers. There, whatever one may say, the most modern equipment, and the service history can be studied.
The cost of maintenance at official dealers
MOT at Range Rover has an unusual schedule - every 12,000 km, but the list of all works is almost always the same.
Everything is complicated with Land Rover maintenance prices, they vary from dealer to dealer. We studied the work orders that the owners post on the Internet and found that many of the work was carried out on the recommendations of dealers ahead of the allotted regulations, and the prices for the same spare parts often differed. Although Land Rover's standard hour is relatively cheap - 1,500 rubles, the maintenance itself is very expensive. And do not forget when comparing prices with unofficial services that dealers often offer discounts on work for non-warranty cars in the amount of up to 40% and 10-15% on spare parts.
Prices for some parts
A used third-generation Range Rover is a controversial car. On the one hand, its components and assemblies are generally reliable and proper maintenance last longer than competitors. On the other hand, even simple maintenance will cost a decent amount, not to mention unscheduled maintenance. Many spare parts are very expensive and do not always have cheap counterparts.
Also remember that due to the fall in the value of the ruble, the price has increased not only for new cars, but also for new spare parts. In addition, many jobs can only be done at a branded or specialized station, especially electrical and electronic work. In a multi-brand unofficial service, due to the unprofessionalism of the masters, the problem can only be aggravated.
And keep in mind that Land Rover is one of the most stolen brands in our country, and especially the large and prestigious Range Rover. In addition, Range Rover often twists mileage, so choose a car with your head and discard emotions. If on a 10-year-old car 100,000 km of run is a reason for a good check. If the owner hides the mileage, what else can he hide?
According to the masters, more or less reliable car will not sell for less than 1 million rubles, therefore, no matter how attractive cars with a price Ford Focus, it is better to bypass them. We recommend opting for a copy no younger than 2007 with a 3.6 TDi engine.
New for the same money
As you understand, the range of prices for the third Range is very large and the range from 500,000 rubles to 2.5 million allows you to choose almost any car. So, you can buy a business sedan of a democratic brand in a very good configuration.
Functional and serious Land Rover Discovery is an SUV with outstanding speed properties, throughput and comfort. If the purchase of this car is decided, then its weaknesses should be considered. It must be remembered that with an unscrupulous inspection of your future car and checking for breakdowns in weak places, the future owner can cost a substantial amount for repairs.
Weaknesses of the 2nd generation Land Rover Discovery
- electronics;
- lower ball joints;
- wheel bearings;
- automatic transmission;
- timing belts;
- EGR valve;
- rear axle differential lock;
- diesel engines 2.7 TD and 3.0 TD.
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Electronics.
Electronics is one of the vulnerabilities of this Discovery. The Terrain Response system helps the driver in many ways. It allows you to choose desired mode depending on the road surface and itself changes the desired settings. But it is this system that most often causes failures in electronics. Sometimes this is due to oxidation of the contacts, another reason may be computer software. Therefore, it is worth going to the service station for diagnostics.
Lower ball joints.
The lower ball bearings are heavily loaded and when used on bad roads they often fail. The assessment of their condition is not always determined during diagnostics, therefore, during a test drive, you need to pay attention to the appearance of a knock on an uneven road, a creak when the steering wheel is turned, and wobbling of the front wheels. Unevenly worn tires can also indicate a problem with this node. On the flyover it is worth looking at the condition of the anthers. Violation of their integrity leads to rapid wear ball bearings.
Wheel bearings.
Experienced owners determine the wear of wheel bearings by ear when driving a car. He will talk about problems with them strange vibration body, unpleasant and loud noise, intensifying when turning the steering wheel.
Off-road slipping in D mode, aggressive driving and a long absence of oil changes can lead to problems with the automatic transmission. Its repair will cost about 100 thousand rubles, so you should carefully check its operation at different speeds. Jerks when switching, shocks in the transmission, as well as loss of transmission can tell about an imminent breakdown.
On a Land Rover Discovery 3 with a gasoline engine, there are two timing belts: in front of the engine and on the side of the box for fuel pump high pressure. visual inspection can help to find out about their wear and tear. The heterogeneity, “shaggyness” of the belts will indicate an imminent failure, but wear begins with inside and it is not always possible to see it.
EGR valve.
The EGR valve is also a weak point. When it malfunctions, jerks and dips occur while driving on low revs, and at high - poor acceleration, loss of power. It is very difficult to determine the malfunction on your own, you should contact the service.
A broken hatch can cause a lot of problems. Its work is controlled by a special unit. To avoid unnecessary expenses when buying, you must carefully check its operation by opening and closing it.
Diesel engines 2.7 TD and 3.0 TD.
A frequent sore: turning the crankshaft liners is a manufacturer’s defect that cannot be predicted in advance, what the owner of this SUV should come to terms with. The most common and frequent breakdown of Discovery 3 and 4: squeezing oil through the front oil seal crankshaft especially with the onset of cold weather. Oil leakage is caused by extrusion from seat stuffing box. Replacing the oil seal will not completely solve the problem, since the reason is in the jamb of the housing seat oil pump. Representatives of the manufacturer's company recommend replacing the oil pump with a modernized one, along with a new type of oil seal. It is recommended to make sure to replace the diesel engine oil pump before purchasing from the dealer.
The original number of the oil pump for Discovery (2.7 TD and 3.0 TD) of the new sample: LR013487.
The main disadvantages of Land Rover Discovery 2004–2016 release:
- fuzzy operation of locks on doors;
- no airbags;
- rather high cost of spare parts and repairs;
- high fuel consumption;
- oil leakage through the front oil seal;
- turning the crankshaft bearing;
- frame corrosion.
In custody.
When treated well, it is relatively practical, durable and spacious SUV. From the original price, its value is reduced by an average of 15-20%. In order to avoid unforeseen costs, you should carefully consider the diseases of the second generation Land Rover Discovery and it is advisable to undergo a full diagnosis.
P.S: Write in the comments about the sore spots and shortcomings of your Land Rover identified during operation. We kindly ask you to indicate the time of failure of the unit or unit and the year of manufacture of the car.
Weaknesses and shortcomings of Land Rover Discovery 2 with mileage was last modified: December 12th, 2018 by Administrator
Discovery 4 is not only complex, but also full of unusual solutions, which is why you have to run around specialized services with it. So, for versions with air suspension, after replacing the steering rods, it is impossible to adjust the wheel alignment angles without a proprietary special computer
Looking at the headline with the name of today's character, many rub their hands excitedly in advance. There will be a massacre! Yes, Land Rover Discovery 4 is not a standard of reliability. However, it seems to us that this model nevertheless left many of its sins in the late 90s - early 2000s.
Contrary to any slanders and even fair complaints of the owners, this car remains beloved and desired by many. Such is her karma. And it's not about recognizable design and premium aristocratic genes. It's just that Land Rover Discovery 4 was created not to obey, but to obey. Only an emotionally strong and holistic person with a good income is able to coexist in harmony with such a machine. She can't handle the weak. She rejects them.
In other words, you are not looking for an LR, but he is looking for you from thousands of candidates. But let's leave the lyrics and turn to the materiel. Her field is unplowed here. Disco 4 is a complex, multifaceted machine that prefers the unique special equipment of official services in repairs. Parts are expensive, and the cost of maintenance is unlikely to appeal to a person who comes to LR from Japanese and even many European brands.
So far, as they say, there are no problems, then everything is fine. Discovery 4 is able to delight with its "tricks" even today, when the option in the premium segment has stepped forward well. Its huge and the highest degree comfortable lounge V given class perhaps unrivaled Under the hood, the following options are possible: a 5-liter gasoline aspirated engine with 375 hp, a 3-liter gasoline turbo with 340 “horses”, two 2.7 turbodiesels (188 hp) and 3 liters with several boost options ( 211–258 hp). If you close your eyes to the ruthless gluttony of a 5-liter gasoline unit, it delivers the least negative emotions. Perhaps, apart from the possible sagging of the timing belts (there are two of them), nothing so systemically unpleasant can be expected from a gasoline unit.
The characteristic design style in the interior of Land Rover does not at all contradict functionality. True, over time, the seat sled loosens. But with diesels it can be troublesome. Most of the problems are electrical. On a 2.7-liter unit, the EGR valve is naughty, which is manifested by increased smoke and uneven operation. Here, there are also malfunctions associated with a breakthrough in the air pipe of the pressurization system (from the intercooler radiator to throttle assembly), resulting in loss of engine power. On a 3-liter engine with EGR, there are no particular problems. But it has two turbines (the 2.7 engine has one), and this entails additional troubles. In absolute terms, turbines take care of 150-200 thousand km. But often they do not live to old age. Replacing them is not cheap. It happens on diesel engines (3.0 to a lesser extent) premature wear of the connecting rod bearings. Also not a pleasant thing.
There are 6- and 8-speed ZF automatic machines here. There are few complaints about them, but this is if they were not openly mocked off-road and the oil was changed at least once every 100,000 km. In general, the transmission is one of strengths this car. Brand system all-wheel drive Terrain Response with a center differential and a rear differential lock works quite reliably even in difficult conditions, if the electronic assistants ETC, ESP and HDC do not fail. The most vulnerable part of it is considered to be the rear differential. A rumble from behind will tell you that it needs to be replaced. Well, if chips are found when draining the oil, then there is nothing to think about - for a replacement. These things are not particularly repairable.
Solid vintage
We will not talk about the problems of the body. In general, the quality of the paintwork is on the level. Moreover, traces of corrosion are more likely to be found from below, on the frame integrated into the body, than on external parts of the body.
Causes of air suspension failure: broken wiring, compressor malfunction, pneumatic valve block malfunction Before buying, do not neglect the total check of the car in the service. Press all buttons, open windows, turn on heaters and be sure to check the operation of the Webasto preheater. In addition to failures of the control module, often the cause of a malfunction of the stove is clogging of the spark plug (nozzle, burner), which leads to its destruction. It will not be superfluous to warn about frequent breakdowns hatch. A separate electrical unit is responsible for its operation, and repairs may require serious expenses. By the way, if anything, you can not count on the purchase of a "second-hand" hatch. It's kind of like a consumable.
Salon Discovery is the place for which everyone forgives the car. Even the vagaries of the air suspension, which have already become a real horror story for potential buyers, and other electricians. The cabin is premium and even the creaking of parts against each other is more like noble sounds on board a vintage yacht. However, you need to keep an eye on the electrician here too. Even a minor failure later can be a harbinger of costly repairs.
When undergoing maintenance, we do not recommend updating the internal combustion engine control software. The software is updated by the manufacturer every now and then. Disco 4 - a car advanced in terms of electronics, you can’t call him a grandfather Contact oxidation may also occur, but more often failures occur in software. This happens with the components of both the engine and the transmission, and multimedia, and, of course, the air suspension, which is complex in all respects.
The weak point is considered to be the lower front ball joints. They have an increased load, and they have to be changed often. But even more often you will have to deal with the replacement of the front wheel bearings. Vibration of the body at speed and an unpleasant sound that intensifies when the steering wheel is turned will report problems with them.
As a result, we want to warn buyers from buying cars one at a time. appearance. Another good third of the budget required for the car can be hidden in internal organs of this attractive but capricious car. Don't skimp on diagnostics. As for the optimal modification, we choose a 3-liter diesel engine. Here, and dynamics, and efficiency, and there are fewer problems.
Suspension
Air suspension requires special attention. Even just by inaccurately installing the jack, you can damage the compressor hidden in the left side member. If Disco symmetrically “lay on the belly”, we cook 830 c.u. to replace reciprocating compressor. Pneumatic struts (from 415 USD) serve 100-120 thousand km. Usually they lose their tightness due to cracks in the rubber corrugation.
Transmission
Automatic transmissions are not immune from failures. But based on service practice, they need serious repairs with a run of over 200 thousand km. Both are readily repairable. Here you should carefully monitor the leaks. Relatively rare, but there are cases of damage cardan shaft, its support and front differential.
Engine
A system defect that is recognized even in the company itself is the possibility premature exit failure of the crank mechanism by turning the crankshaft liners, which sometimes leads to total consequences. However, with the restyling of 2013, this diesel problem seems to have been eliminated. And the liners no longer destroy the crankshaft.
Body
Body Discovery traditionally resistant in terms of corrosion. The hood and tailgate doors are all aluminum. True, Ukrainian operating conditions quickly deal with chrome exterior trim. By the way, they quickly fail and door locks. For each, you can give more than 160 USD.
Electrician
Electrical is still weakness LR. In our conditions, the wiring actively corrodes, but this should not be scary when buying an SUV for secondary market. All problems, although not cheap, are solved. And do not be afraid of computer failures, with so many electronics, they are inevitable.
Prestige, universal qualities, reliable system all-wheel drive, fairly strong suspension, powerful brakes
A large number of electrical failures, wheel bearings, gasoline engine fuel consumption
