Reviews of the owners of Fiat Albea (Fiat Albea). General information about the car Specifications of the middle level

Reviews of the owners of Fiat Albea (Fiat Albea). General information about the car Specifications of the middle level

02.09.2019

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FRONT SUSPENSION

Kinematic diagram of the front suspension. 1- ball bearing; 2-hub; 3-brake disc; 4-protective cover; 5-turn lever; 6-lower support cup; 7- suspension spring; 8-protective case telescopic rack; - compression buffer; 10-upper support cup; 11-bearing of the upper support; 12- top support of the rack; 13-rod nut; 14- stock; 15- compression buffer support; 16-telescopic rack; 17-nut; 18-eccentric bolt; 19- rounded fist; 20-shaft drive front wheel; 21-protective cover of the hinge; 22-outer shaft hinge; 23-lower arm.

Front suspension independent, MacPherson strut type, with telescopic shock absorber struts, coil springs, lower wishbones and stabilizer roll stability. The arrangement of elements of a forward suspension bracket on the car is shown on fig. 1, 2, 3, 4.

The main element of the front suspension is the telescopic shock absorber strut 1 (Fig. 2), which combines the functions of the telescopic element of the guide mechanism and the damping element of the wheel's vertical oscillations relative to the body. A twisted cylindrical compression buffer 4, a protective cover 5 of the strut and an upper support 1 are assembled on the shock absorber 1 (Fig. 1). Through the thrust bearing installed in the upper support, the load is transferred to the car body. The shock absorber strut with its lower part is connected to the steering knuckle 3 (Fig. 4) of the front suspension. Front suspension arm attached back to the cross member 2 (Fig. 3) of the suspension with the help of a silent block and a rubber bushing, and through the front part ball joint connected to the lower part of the steering knuckle of the front suspension. The crossbar, in turn, is attached to the side members of the body.
The anti-roll bar 1 with rubber pads mounted on it is connected to the cross member 2 of the front suspension and to the levers with four brackets.

Rice. 1. 1-Upper suspension strut support; 2-screw; 3-rubber cover; 4-upper support cup; 5, 7-washer; 6-spacer sleeve; 8-nut.

Rice. 2. 1-strut shock absorber; 2- spring; 3-nut; 4-compression buffer (chipper); 5-protective cover (anther); 6-bolt; 7-washer.

Rice. 3. 1-roll bar; 2-subframe; 3-nut; 4-inner pillow; 5-outer pillow; 6-bracket for fastening the inner cushion; 7, 8, 10, 13, 14 - screws; 9-sleeve; 11-bracket; 12 washer.

Rice. 4. 1-Swing arm; 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 screws; 3- rotary fist; 4-washer; 12 ball joint.

The front wheel hubs are mounted on double-row angular contact ball bearings.Bearings for cars with and without ABC differ from each other by the presence of a magnetic strip. Those. on a car with ABC, you can install a bearing without a magnetic strip, but then the ABC system will not work.

Rice. 5. 1-outer CV joint; 3- nut; 7-bearing; 8- hub.

When replacing the front struts and front suspension springs, change these parts only in pairs (right and left at the same time)!

The FIAT Albea car is equipped with gas-oil front telescopic shock absorber struts. On sale under analogues substitutes are also sold gas-oil shock absorber struts.

Just oil and as some say "gas" on the horizon have not yet been seen!

OEM part numbers for front suspension.

Front pillar: original;: 51702390 (without ABS), 51702389 (with ABS).
analogues from the manufacturer: 51708823 (without ABS); 51708824 (with ABS).

Below are also analogues of front shock absorbers from other manufacturers, suitable for Albea 100%.

AM-4134 (without ABS) - (Conson, Türkiye);
have rigid characteristics, do not differ much from the original.

CRX21056 (without ABS) - (Carex);

FT-1013 (without ABS) - (Alco/Gober);

ASG8824 (with ABS) - (Automotor, France);
have soft characteristics. With them, the car rides more smoothly, hard hits "in the front panel" disappear. The changes are especially noticeable when rolling down a suburban highway.

FORCETECH PS 9710211 (with ABS) - (Maysan Mando, Türkiye);




G16356 (with ABS) - (Monroe).

shock absorber support left: Shock absorber support right:
original: 46760673. original: 46760674.

In many catalogs, shock absorber mounts beat the other way around and on FIAT Doblo they are installed the other way around (674-left, 673-right). In our car, the upper shock absorber mounts are installed in exactly the same order as above.

46466619 - shock absorber boot;

46464298 - shock absorber bumper;
46777766 - rubber gasket for the spring;
7082812 - ball bearing;
46748579 - rear right silent block;
46748578 - rear left silent block;
46421522 - front silent block;
51744226 - outer stabilizer bushing;
51769073 - suspension arm assembly, right;
51769074 - suspension arm assembly left;
46828588 - knuckle rotary right;
51759339 - knuckle rotary left;
46776762 - hub bearing (without ABC);
46532573 - hub bearing (with ABC);
46738808 - inner stabilizer bushing, for stabilizer 46738806 (diameter 22 mm);
46738807 - inner stabilizer bushing, for stabilizer 46738805 (diameter 21 mm);


46833041 - front spring.

In the "classic" and "comfort" car trim levels, the front springs have more rigid characteristics, in contrast to the "base" configuration. Outwardly, there are no differences, the difference lies in the marking of the springs. On the "base" - this is one white and two green dots; "classic" and "comfort" are one yellow and two brown dots.

Replacing the front struts and springs.

Before replacing old (killed) racks, it is necessary to carefully diagnose the condition of the above elements. So that later it would not be sad when you remove the rack and disassemble it into its components, you will understand that there are not enough new elements for repair, since it makes no sense to put the old ones back.

In the event of failure of the front suspension struts working fluid(oil) gets on the protective rubber boot, thereby corroding it and rendering it unusable. Also, failures of the front suspension strut mounts are not uncommon. In general, to replace the front struts, in addition to the struts themselves, you may need:
- Dampers (chippers);
- Protective cover (anther);
- Upper supports shock absorbers;
- Springs.

Before replacing the front struts, you need to make simple measurements as shown in the photo below.


And if the dimensions you measured match and the size from the edge of the wing to the center of the wheel axle is standing car equal to 373 mm (photo 1) or less, then the front springs must also be replaced. Because in this case, the weight of the car is not spring-loaded, but lies with a polyurethane bump stop on the rack and the car suspension does not work. For those who have doubts about the correctness of the calculation, they can make the calculations themselves. In photo 2 there is the size of the full extension of the rod from the rack, photo 3 is a fender installed in its place (the height of our fender is 93 mm). 435 mm is the size from the edge of the wing to the middle of the wheel with the front wheel jacked up.
Optimal size from the edge of the wing to the middle of the wheel, installed without load on the ground car, for high-quality operation of the front suspension is - 385-390 mm.

And so, to replace the front struts and springs, you will need the following tool: a spanner wrench for 13 (upper rack mount), a spanner for 19, spring couplers, a hexagon for 6 (unscrew the top nut for 19 supports), an open-end wrench for 17 (compress the springs)

A-pillars AM-4134 (without ABS) - (Conson Turkey).

Front springs Kilen 12161

Comparison of old (stock) and new springs.
Spring height 380 mm and bar thickness 12 mm absolutely identical to the springs installed at the factory.
As practice has shown, the Kilen 12161 front springs, with all the external attributes, turned out to be not very good. good quality. Slipped literally in the first months of operation. Therefore, I do not recommend these springs for installation on a car, the result will be the same: money spent in vain!

Front springs Taksim FT-3034


They have the following dimensions Height 400 mm and bar diameter 12 mm. The difference in length is 20 mm, and in fact, the photographs show a more stretched method of winding. Such springs, judging by the catalogs, are intended for installation on vehicles equipped with diesel engine with a volume of 1.9 liters. Such springs are accordingly designed for a large load.

Anthers universal with chippers, Japanese made code 04-020 , where 020 stands for our stem diameter of 20mm and length of 98mm. The length of the fender had to be shortened by one ring, i.e. under the size of 84 mm (the size of the standard chipper is 93 mm). By installing anthers with bumpers of this brand, we simultaneously solve another childhood illness of our car - this is the knock of a plastic bumper on a metal support cup.






Below is another option.

Racks ASG8824 (with ABS) - (Automotor France) + boot Birth 51560 (new on the left) on the right, the old swollen from oil. The new one is indistinguishable from the original.

The appearance of the old racks that have served their purpose and the section of the used support.


Elimination of squeaks in the front suspension.

If characteristic squeaks occur in the front suspension (rubber crunch) after the car overcomes large bumps on the road (example: speed bump), the first thing to pay attention to is the two components of the front suspension that can make these sounds:

External stabilizer bar bushings;
- Front silent blocks front lower arms pendants.

Accordingly, we are trying to solve the problem of the occurrence of squeaks little blood, for this, first we replace the stabilizer bushings. Maybe this is where our search ends.

Remove any front wheel.

We unscrew the central mounts on both sides of the stabilizer and the outer mount of the stabilizer on the opposite side where the wheel was removed.

Change the stabilizer bushing.

Elimination of knocking anthers of the front struts

1. We jack up the front of the car so that the wheel hangs out. It is not necessary to remove the wheel - it does not interfere. We lower the duster down.



2. We cut out a ring with a diameter of 80 mm from rubber of any thickness. Inner diameter under the rod about 15 mm

3. We put this economy on the stock and lift the boot into place.

Behind the bumpers, the situation is similar to the front, in order to get rid of knocks, we perform a similar operation on the rear shock absorbers.

Do-it-yourself repair of the lower control arms of the front suspension. Experience of one of the owners.

First, let's get the accessories.



To press out the outer bushing of the front s / b, I purchased a s / b puller 2108 and 8 washers 30 x 16.


For pressing, I used a bushing of a suitable diameter and a bolt with a rocker arm from a universal bearing puller.



It turned out to be more difficult to remove the ball bearings and the old s / b, which did not fall out on their own, I had to cut, drill, saw the rubber in order to release the outer bushing of the front and the inner rear s / b. The bushing of the rear s / b is cut off by a grinder to the axis, torn off with a gas wrench, after which it is easily removed. To remove the ball joint, it is necessary to cut off the heads of the rivets with a grinder, and drill out the body of the rivets, or press it out with a press (if any).


The device-conductor for pressing the rear s / b had to be made by myself.


The process of pressing s / b is clear from the photo. We install the conductor on the lever, bait three bolts so that a small hole. in the lever coincided with small holes in the jig (for centering, you can use a drill with a diameter of 5 mm), tighten the bolts, drill a hole in the lever to a diameter of 6.1-6.2 mm and insert a pin with a diameter of 6 mm from good hardened steel (the drill shank bends when pressed ). We first wash the bushings and axles, then we press in the c / b. The nuance is only in the correct orientation of the rear s / b, which is done visually, combining the plane of the s / b bracket with the plane of the conductor corner.






Half day work with breaks.

The premiere of the car Fiat Albea took place in April 1996 under the names Fiat Siena and Fiat Palio. In 1999, the first modernization of the car was carried out, and in April 2005, the second modernization and restyling. They produce a car in Poland (Tychy), under by Fiat Albea in Turkey (Bursa), and since December 2006 in Russia at the enterprise of the SOLLERS group OJSC ZMA in Naberezhnye Chelny.
For Russian market cars assembled in Turkey and Naberezhnye Chelny are supplied with a 1.4 liter (77 hp) engine and mechanical five-speed gearbox gears.
This site describes the car Russian production as the dominant one in the volume of the Russian market of this model.
Fiat Albea cars are made only with a sedan body in three basic configurations: Base (immobilizer, height-adjustable steering wheel, power steering, heated rear window, central locking, full size spare wheel, driver airbag, height-adjustable headrests, fire prevention system, headlight range control, audio preparation, bumpers, body-colored exterior door handles and sill trims, Follow me home device); Classic (compared to the Base package, it additionally includes body-colored electric rear-view mirrors, luxury door upholstery, front power windows, on-board computer, 40/60 split folding rear seat, air conditioning, fog lights); Comfort (in addition to the equipment of the Classic package, the driver's seat is adjustable in height and lumbar support, ABS + EBD, airbag front passenger).
The body of the Fiat Albea car is load-bearing, all-metal, welded construction with hinged front fenders, doors, hood and trunk lid. wind and rear window pasted. driver's seat in Base configurations and Classic can be adjusted in the longitudinal direction and in the backrest, and in Comfort configuration- additionally in height and lumbar support of the backrest, front passenger seat - in the longitudinal direction and inclination of the backrest. The front seats and the seats for the rear side passengers are equipped with height-adjustable head restraints. rear seat backrest trim levels Classic and Comfort can be folded forward in parts in a ratio of 40:60.
Transmission made according to front-wheel drive scheme with front wheel drives equipped with equal joint angular velocities. All cars are equipped with a five-speed mechanical box gears.
MacPherson type front suspension, independent, spring, with anti-roll bar, with hydraulic shock absorber struts. Rear suspension semi-independent, spring, with hydraulic shock absorbers.
The brake mechanisms of the front wheels are disc, ventilated with a floating caliper, the rear wheels are drum brakes, with a device for automatically adjusting the gaps between brake pads and drums. Brake system equipped vacuum booster. On cars in the Base and Classic trim levels, a brake force regulator is installed in the hydraulic drive brake mechanisms rear wheels. Vehicles in the Comfort package are equipped with anti-lock braking system brakes (ABS) with brake force distribution subsystem (EBD).
Steering safety, with a rack-and-pinion steering mechanism and a tilt-adjustable steering column. All vehicles are equipped hydraulic booster. The frontal airbag is located in the steering wheel hub.
All cars are equipped with inertial diagonal seat belts for the driver, front passenger and outer passengers in the rear seat. For the middle passenger in the rear seat, a non-inertia lap belt is provided.

TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE VEHICLE

Parameter Characteristic
Total information
Number of seats including driver
5
Curb weight, kg. 1113
Maximum permissible weight, kg.
1530
Wheel base, mm. 2439
Wheel track, mm
Front/rear

1414 / 1438
Minimum turning radius, m
5,2
Maximum speed, km/h.
162
Car acceleration time from standstill to 100 km/h, s.
13,5
Fuel consumption per l/100 km
in the urban cycle
extra-urban
V combined cycle
8,2
5,0
6,2
Octane number of gasoline, not less than
95
Engine
Model 350А1000
Type With fuel injection system
Number and arrangement of cylinders 4, in a row
Cylinder diameter and piston stroke, mm
72.0x84.0
Cylinder displacement, cm3
1368
Compression ratio 11,1
The order of operation of the cylinders
1-3-4-2
Maximum power kW (hp)
57(77)/6000
Maximum torque N m (kgf m)
115(11,8)/3000
Transmission
Clutch Single disc, dry, with diaphragm pressure spring and damper torsional vibrations, permanently closed type
Clutch Release Drive hydraulic
Transmission Five-speed, with synchronizers in all gears, except for z.x.
Gear ratios
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
5th gear
Z.Kh.

4.27
2.24
1,44
1,03
0,87
3,91
main gear Single, cylindrical, helical
Gear ratio main couple
4.10
Differential Conical, double satellite
Wheel drive Open, shafts with constant velocity joints
Chassis
Front suspension Independent, spring, with hydraulic shock absorber struts and torsion-type anti-roll bar
Rear suspension Semi-independent, with coil springs, hydraulic shock absorbers and torsion-type anti-roll bar
wheels Steel, disc, stamped
Wheel size 5.5JX14CH ET44
Tires Radial, tubeless
Tire size 175/70R14, 185/65R14
Steering
Steering Safety, with hydraulic booster, with steering column tilt adjustment
Steering gear rack and pinion
The number of turns of the steering wheel from lock to lock
2,65
Brake system
Workers:
front
rear

Disc, ventilated with floating caliper
Drum, with self-centering pads and mechanisms for automatic clearance adjustment
Service brake drive Hydraulic, dual-circuit, separate, made according to a diagonal scheme, with a vacuum booster and a four-channel anti-lock braking system (ABS) and an electronic brake force regulator (EBD) *
Parking brake WITH mechanical drive on rear wheels from the floor lever, with switch-on signaling
electrical equipment
wiring diagram Single wire, negative pole connected to ground
Rated voltage, V. 12
Accumulator battery Starter, maintenance-free 60 A / h.
Generator Alternating current, with built-in rectifier and electronic voltage regulator, maximum current 65 A.
Starter With mixed excitement remote control with electromagnetic activation and clutch freewheel, power 1.0 kW
Body
Type All-metal, load-bearing

*Only in the Comfort package. In the Base and Classic trim levels, a mechanical brake force regulator is installed in the hydraulic drive of the rear wheel brakes.

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Handling is good, average comfort, big trunk 550 liters, the cabin is comfortable in long trips you don’t get tired, the dynamics are rather weak, galvanized body, thick metal, excellent gearbox, clear inclusions, short lever strokes, the engine runs quietly, the sound insulation is average, the suspension is harsh, not pierced.

Fiat Albea, 2008

The car has good dynamics. The trunk is often larger than cars more high class. Clearance - what you need for summer residents. Consumption on the highway 5-5.5 l100. During the operation, not a single breakdown, spending only on changing oil and filters, the suspension is very reliable: in the spring of this year I checked it before traveling to Ukraine - no complaints.

Fiat Albea, 2007

The car is quite frisky and agile for its class, very economical, never let me down. Replaced after the diagnosis (as recommended) only salintbloki. There is a store where parts are a little more expensive than dozens. High ground clearance, the first car on which the back does not get tired (height lift and seatback curve adjustment). Add. ABS functions, 2nd airbags, power steering, el. glass lifts, transformation rear seats. Selling Fiat Albea due to poor health.

Fiat Albea, 2012

Bought in a car dealership in Tyumen Albea. Vparili for 430t. R. Divorced. Received without rugs, mudguards, fender liner, 0.5 liters of anti-freeze, gasoline for 20 km, in winter with summer tires, without seat adjustment, shameful drive mirrors, one name. They showed it warmed up, with seat adjustment. It seemed like nothing. But when you start it cold, it rumbles like a diesel. Warmed up constantly buzzes, exhausts the soul !!! Regretted that he got in. It would be better to take the Chinese. There are at least more options.

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