05.02.2018
KiaCeed one of the most popular cars in the C-class segment. The appearance of this model in the family Korean manufacturer not only marked new era in the history of the company's development, but also allowed it to take a leading position in many automotive markets peace. Kia is one of the few car manufacturers that, by releasing budget cars, is trying to please consumers of different categories - young people, older drivers and the fairer sex. Probably, thanks to this, Kia Ceed is not only in steady demand among motorists, but is a bestseller in the domestic market.
Specifications Kia Ceed
Brand and body type: C - hatchback, station wagon (SW);
Body dimensions (L x W x H), mm - 4260 x 1790 x 1480 | 4490 x 1790 x 1525;
Wheelbase, mm - 2650;
Ground clearance, mm - 150;
Tire size - 195/65 R15, 205/55 R16;
Fuel tank volume, l - 53;
Curb weight, kg - 1263, 1367;
Gross weight, kg - 1710, 1820;
Trunk capacity, l - 340 (1300), 534 (1664);
Options - Classic, Comfort, Luxe, Premium, Prestige.
Common sores and weaknesses of Kia Ceed
Problem areas of the body:
Paintwork- traditionally for budget cars Korean production varnish and paint are quite soft, because of this, even after a couple of years of operation, a a large number of scratches and chips. The owners of the first Seeds (2006-2008) clutched their heads, finding peeling varnish with front bumper and middle pillars. Met and "sandblast" rapids. Fortunately, the manufacturer gave a 5-year warranty on the body and eliminated such defects for free.
body iron- despite the fact that the metal Kia bodies Ceed is quite thin to corrosion, it is not prone to corrosion, even in places where paint is chipped, iron does not oxidize for a long time. But, there are still a couple of weaknesses in the body. After winter, pockets of corrosion appear on the trunk lid. The reason - due to the dense fit of the door, at the junction, the paint is wiped off to the metal. Over time, the thresholds, the metal around the brake light and the lining above the license plate may also begin to rust. The problem is solved by pasting problem areas with a protective film.
Optics– often in wet weather or after washing, condensation forms in the headlights, to solve the problem, it is necessary to replace the ventilation covers. IN rear optics over time, the reflector of the additional brake light cracks (you can prevent the problem by installing an additional gasket).
Electrician– failure of shock and temperature sensors is possible environment. The reason is that the contacts rot due to the lack of a protective cover on the electrical connectors.
Seals- after 4-5 years of operation, the hood seals tan, and then collapse, it is possible to extend their service life, but for this it is necessary to periodically lubricate them silicone grease. Also, attention is required to the external glass seals on the front doors - they bend into a groove and get stuck there.
windshield washer- on pre-styling cars (until 2009) it was not famous for its reliability - often the brushes manage to swing dry and only after that the liquid enters. Reasons - the motor creates a weak pressure, the reverse valve is weakened, the system is not tight, the nozzles are clogged. Failures in the electronics are also possible - failure of the mode switch or flow distributor. After restyling, the manufacturer eliminated all the shortcomings.
Power units and their disadvantages
1.4 and 1.6 - despite the fact that gasoline engines are fairly fresh Gamma series(produced since 2007) their main weaknesses are already well known to the masters of service stations, therefore, in case of any trouble, there will be no problems with restoring the unit's performance. Both motors are assembled on the same cylinder block and differ only in a crankshaft with an increased piston stroke. The rest of the powertrains are identical, apart from technical similarity, they share common weaknesses and shortcomings.
Used on engines chain drive Timing, according to the manufacturer, the drive does not need maintenance and serves for the declared engine life - at least 180,000 km. However, on a car with a mileage of over 100,000 km, it is advisable to check the condition of the chain at each maintenance, since operating experience has shown that the chain needs to be replaced after 120-150 thousand km, and its tensioner untimely service motor may ask for replacement even earlier. Symptoms - rumble when starting a cold engine, diesel rumble. Ignoring the problem, as a rule, leads to a chain jump and a meeting of valves with pistons. On both engines, every 95,000 km, valve clearances must be adjusted by replacing pushers - there are no hydraulic compensators. Although this procedure it is not cheap, you should not neglect it, since in the future it can provoke problems in the form of increased noise, tripling, burnouts, etc.
Common faults:
Extraneous noise from a cold engine- in 90% of cases, the culprit of the timing, the reason may also be in improperly adjusted valves (with such a problem, the car could leave the factory), clicking sounds (chirring) can make nozzles - an integral part of their work. In any case, it is better to contact the service for diagnostics.
Oil leaks- due to the fact that the manufacturer used a sealant instead of gaskets, by 100,000 km the first oily smudges appear on the motor. By 150,000 km, the valve cover gasket breaks through and it begins to let oil through - sometimes the broaching of the fixing bolts helps to fix the problem.
Crankshaft oil seal- starts to flow closer to 100,000 km.
Unstable engine operation- most often the culprit of this ailment is severe contamination of the throttle and spark plugs. If flushing the damper and replacing the spark plugs does not give the desired result, you will have to change the ECU firmware to a more recent one.
Vibrations at medium speeds (2000-3000)- the cause has not been identified. Officials claim that this trouble is a feature of the engines - it enters into resonance due to the peculiar design of the mount. The solution to the problem is to spin the engine up to the cutoff and release the gas pedal, if this does not help, check the condition of the engine mounts.
Whistling- culprit, tensioner drive belt.
Piston rings and crankshaft liners- require replacement on a run of 150-200 thousand km.
Fuel- with frequent use low-quality gasoline the service life of spark plugs, ignition coils, oxygen sensor and mass flow air. For the same reason, by 100,000 km, the converter may also become unusable.
Resource- depending on the operating conditions and the quality of service, the power unit will last 200-300 thousand km. There is an opinion that the motor is not repairable, since boring for the repair size is not provided. However, in club services there are specialists who have adapted to sleeve the cylinder block.
Motor 2.0 in terms of reliability, it looks more preferable than less powerful engines. Power unit G4GC ( Beta II series) is equipped with a variable valve timing system for intake shaft CVVT, but does not have hydraulic lifters, therefore, when characteristic knocks appear, it is recommended to adjust the valve clearances. Unlike more weak motors a timing belt drive is installed here, it is recommended to change the belt with rollers every 60,000 kilometers. There are owners who drive more than 100,000 km on one belt, but such savings can result in expensive engine repairs.
Faults:
Jerks during acceleration and deceleration- most often the problem is caused by a malfunction of the ignition coils. If replacing the coils does not solve the problem, you need to change the BB wires and candles.
Exhaust system- over time, the gasket installed between the catalyst and the resonator burns out, because of this, a check error engine.
coolant temperature sensor- fails ahead of schedule, so you need to monitor it, since if it malfunctions, there is a risk of overheating the engine.
Noisy operation (diesel) and vibrations- a feature of this motor.
RPM hang- the problem is solved by flashing the engine control unit.
Resource- 250-350 thousand km.
Diesel engines:
Despite the fact that diesel power units are slightly more economical than gasoline ones, they have not received mass distribution in our market, and there are reasons for this. First, the high cost of maintenance. Secondly, capricious fuel system, which poorly digests the quality of our fuel, as a result, expensive repairs have to be done at a mileage of less than 100,000 km (injectors, high-pressure fuel pumps, EGR become unusable). Thirdly, diesel engines turned out to be less reliable than gasoline ones.
Turbine- often begins to whistle on a run of 70-90 thousand km, and at 120-150 thousand km it needs to be replaced. There can be two reasons for the failure of the turbine - failure of the boost sensor, or bad contact in the sensor wiring.
Glow plugs- often become the culprits of the difficult start of the power unit with the advent of cold weather, on average, their resource is 80-100 thousand km.
Pressure regulator sensor fuel rail - not famous for reliability, if it malfunctions, problems arise with starting the engine.
Increased oil consumption- after 100,000 km, the engine starts to eat up oil. At first, no more than 150-200 grams go from replacement to replacement, but closer to 200,000 kilometers, the consumption can be about 300 grams per 1,000 kilometers.
Front crankshaft oil seal- needs to be replaced on a run of 60-90 thousand km, owners of cars with a 1.6-liter engine often face a problem.
Transmission
Mechanics- about reliability of this type transmissions cannot be judged unequivocally, for some the box does not require intervention up to 200,000 km, for others, after 40-60 thousand km, it starts to bother frequent breakdowns. The first troubles can be presented by the "connecting" link of the clutch - release bearing, which often becomes unusable after 50,000 km. The clutch itself takes care of up to 150,000 km. Another trouble is peculiar to these boxes - noisy work. The main reasons are insufficient oil level in the box or the presence of wear in the bearing seat input shaft.
By 150,000 km of run, the gear rims of the gear, the synchronizer clutch and the third gear blocking ring begin to wear out. So, if the transmission began to crackle and rest when shifting gears, prepare about 300 USD. for repairs. At each maintenance, do not forget to check the condition of the anthers of the CV joints, since on some specimens they are made of low-quality material and by 50,000 km they begin to poison the lubricant. There is no oil change policy in this box, but experts service centers It is recommended to change it at least once every 100,000 km.
Automatic transmission (A4CF1)- buying a car automatic transmission second-hand gear is a risky business, since the machine does not present many problems, only if timely service(every 50,000 km). If the box was not followed, serious problems may start closer to 120,000 km. Solenoids wear out the fastest (the control unit no longer understands in which position the selector and the box goes into emergency mode work) and hydroblock. Of the minor troubles, the unreliability of sensors and wiring can be noted. On cars of the first years of production, problems with the output shaft are possible, as a rule, the disease manifests itself on a run of 100-150 thousand km. Subject to all operating rules, the resource of the box will be about 250,000 km.
Reliability of the suspension, steering and brakes Kia Ceed
The Kia Ceed implements the most popular suspension layout to date: McPherson front, multi-link rear. In good condition, the suspension is quite energy-intensive and provides good handling. In repair, the suspension is relatively inexpensive due to the possibility separate replacement consumables.
Resource of the main elements:
- Stabilizer struts: front - 30-40 thousand km, rear - 60,000 km.
- Stabilizer bushings: front - 40-50 thousand km, rear - up to 80,000 km.
- Shock absorbers - 70-90 thousand km.
- Ball bearings - 80-100 thousand km.
- wheel bearings– up to 100,000 km
- Silent blocks of the front levers - 90-120 thousand km.
- Breakup levers - about 100,000 km.
- Floating silent blocks up to 120,000 km.
- Rear suspension springs - if you often carry three adult passengers in the back seat, they quickly sag.
Steering:
Extraneous knocks in the steering, as a rule, appear after 100,000 km. There may be several sources:
- Shaft play.
- Deterioration of the elastic gear of the electric power steering.
- Steering shaft cardan (spline connections).
- Steering rack bushings - their resource, on average, is 90-120 thousand km, replacement solves the problem for a short time.
- Steering tips - 100-150 thousand km.
Malfunctions of the electric amplifier- the problem is quite common and dangerous, the fact is that if the amplifier fails, it can “bite” the steering wheel.
Brakes:
The brakes are reliable, the only thing that can bother is parking brake, if not used for a long time, the mechanism and the braided cable turn sour.
- Brake pads: front - 40-60 thousand km, rear - up to 120,000 km.
- Brake discs - 2-3 sets of pads.
Salon and electrics
The quality of finishing materials high level, especially considering the class of the car. As for the crickets in the cabin, opinions differ here, since a lot depends on the year of manufacture, whose assembly of the car and operating conditions. For some, the number of crickets in the cabin grows in parallel with age, for others, after 5-8 years, there is not a single extraneous sound in the cabin. In any case, such a disadvantage is unlikely to significantly affect when choosing a car and is eliminated for a penny, another thing is the reliability of electrical equipment. Kia Ceed electronics cannot be called too capricious, but it can still deliver certain inconveniences. The main cause of failures in electronics is the weak contacts of the connection connectors. For the same reason, difficulties may arise when starting the engine (the immobilizer fails). Of the common malfunctions, one can note the failure of the window lift mechanisms and malfunctions of the head unit.
What is the result?
Kia Ceed is enough interesting option for acquisition, not only due to acceptable reliability, but also the low cost of acquisition and further maintenance of the car. However, find Kia Ceed in good condition and with untwisted mileage today is not so easy, therefore, before buying a car, we recommend that you professional diagnostics copy you like.
If you have experience in operating this car model, please tell us what problems and difficulties you had to face. Perhaps it is your review that will help readers of our site when choosing a car.
Time is running. It's been almost six years since we took a test drive back then new Kia Ceed 2 generations, and now it's time to write a review of a used car. Let's deal with it weak points and the nuances of checking it before buying.
We did not find serious flaws in the new Kia Ceed. Let's see how used options behave
Then the newcomer pleased finally changed in better side chassis, more high-torque engine and, of course, a wide range of additional options. Some active drivers managed to roll on the second generation Kia Ceed more than 200 thousand km, and the employees of taxi companies and even more. This, perhaps, is enough to reveal the weaknesses of the model. As it turned out, the main part of the costs is chassis And steering, a little less attention to itself requires the engine and its attachments, but for the rest, the owners are worried about the little things, which, as they like to "drip in the ear" outbid, do not affect the speed.
On the test car during the trip, for no apparent reason, the plug of the hole for the headlight washer disappeared. With a hole in the bumper, Ceed was no longer so photogenic
Always like new
In general, with the release of the second generation, motorists for the first time appreciated the Kia Ceed in terms of aesthetics. Over time and with the kilometers traveled, the appearance no longer seems so attractive, but also in a frank trash heap, like many Chinese cars Used Ceed doesn't turn. Align the body gaps a little, polish the headlights, remove chips and “saffron milk mushrooms” and a car with a mileage of 100 tkm outwardly approaches the state of a new car.
Many owners complain about body gaps shifting over time. On the test car, such flaws were not noticed.
Turning to weaknesses, it is worth noting that there were many warranty replacements. Owners' biggest annoyance was caused by scratches on the side windows, which forced dealers to replace them along with the seals, which, in general, are the culprit of what is happening. A considerable number of appeals provoked the creaking of the trapeze wipers. If the rubbing elements are not lubricated in time, then the system “wedges” in one of the positions and further - only the replacement of the entire assembly.
These stripes on the windows do not at all indicate the mileage. Scratches are left by a negligent sealant
The owners of Kia Ceed JD noticed corrosion only on the fifth door. Characteristic swellings often also fell on guarantee period, so a repainted trunk lid does not always mean a bad past. One way or another, this is just one door, and not several body panels, like, for example, at.
The windshield wiper mechanism should be lubricated periodically, otherwise there will be a creak first, and then jamming
Familiar ruler
Under the hood of Kia Ceed you can see the power units G4FA (1.4), G4FG (1.6), familiar to us from models Kia Rio And Hyundai Solaris, but with phase change clutches at the inlet and outlet. Accordingly, the list of weaknesses and malfunctions is almost the same. Structurally, these motors are like two drops of water and they are distinguished only by the difference in volume, achieved by changing the piston stroke.
Unlike Solaris, Kia Ceed has phase shifters on both shafts. This is where the differences end.
Even in the truly harsh Russian conditions Ceed engines take care of much more than the resource declared by the manufacturer of 180 thousand km without serious investments, however, a number of not the cheapest manipulations will have to be planned at the turn of 100 thousand km and this should be taken into account when First of all, this concerns the replacement of the chain kit, which for this run already stretched out quite a bit. And, since you have removed the valve cover, then at the same time adjust the valve clearances. The procedure is not simple, but the hassle will decrease decently in the future.
About once every 100 thousand km Ceed requires a chain replacement and valve clearance adjustment
What the owners of Kia Ceed really like to do is cut out the “catalyst” from it, because together with the new “brains” firmware, this adds a dozen “horses” to the existing ones. A regular part rarely reaches the first hundred thousand kilometers without destroying the "ceramics", and this, as you know, endangers the piston group. The crumbs sucked into the combustion chamber will kill the patient with no chance of survival. Reach out to the first mistakes in neutralizer efficiency exhaust gases not worth it. They removed the organ, flashed it under Euro2 and sleep peacefully. Doctors say that the appendix in the intestines is useless, especially with our food.
After the first "hundred", the catalyst, as a rule, begins to break down, which poses a real threat to the piston group
The rest will only bother the little things. For example, a whistle when the engine is running means that it asked for a dump tension roller drive belt. Installation original part akin to walking on a rake - it will still make noise again.
Vibration on the body when the engine is running usually means that its right hydraulic support has already leaked out
seize the moment
Unlike Solaris (Rio), there are no problems with turning on the third gear in Ceed with manual transmission, but the oil seals flow unexpectedly and painfully. The most unpleasant thing is the leakage of oil through the seals of the input shaft of the box. We missed the moment and, together with the oil seal, we will have to replace the entire clutch basket, which will undoubtedly begin to slip and “burn”. Without such "sticks in the wheels" from the side of the box, new clutches live for a long time - 150-200 tkm.
it is better to eliminate the leakage of the manual transmission oil seal until the clutch disc burns out
The six-speed "automatic" of good bloodlines and serious weaknesses he has. Change the oil periodically and there will be no breakdowns. In the event of "kicks" when switching to a flashing of the TCM unit to the dealer, the new program solves the problem, if not forever, then for a long time. It is better to refuse to buy a used Ceed with “twitches”, because it is not known how long the owner traveled with this problem, because no one guarantees that irreversible processes have already begun in the automatic transmission.
"Iron" automatic transmission at Kia Ceed does not raise questions, but the factory software imperfect - requires periodic "flashing of the brain"
Confident McPherson and a modest multi-link
The first in the traditional chassis of the Kia Ceed JD are traditionally molted and steering tips. Some usually do not even reach 50 thousand km, others - up to 80. Wheel bearings "live" for about 100 tkm and, in the event of a hum, go to rest along with the entire hub, which makes their replacement not as cheap as it might seem before. Ball front levers live a very long time, but on condition that it is possible to keep the anther intact. Periodic lubrication with silicone will help with this. The procedure will be especially useful for the silent blocks of the rear multi-link, because even for neat riders up to 150 thousand km, the rubber bands already crack and sag in order and, interestingly, they absolutely do not annoy with sounds. So let's say - a hidden weak spot.
rear Ceed pendant JD requires careful driving and occasional attention. Silent blocks of levers did not differ in durability
The survivability of the shock absorbers was impressive, but of course a lot depends on who is behind the wheel. Those who are not friends with their heads manage to destroy vibration dampers by 50 thousand km, however, cases of 200 thousand km run on native parts are not uncommon.
In the event of a hum and play of the hub bearing, the entire assembly will have to be replaced
Kia Ceed steering rack problems were mostly under warranty. If service book already in the garbage, and the “sore” pressed, then for the first time a banal tightening will save you from sounds, but then you will have to solve the problem like a man - with removal and analysis. By by and large, you need to change the worn out plastic sleeve (565213X000), the play appears due to its transient wear. However, the steering assembly is dismantled with the removal of the subframe, which means that it will not be superfluous to replace the stabilizer bushings. Moreover, such an investment in the future costs mere pennies.
The same bushing, due to the wear of which the rail “knocks on the ears”
Losing contact
The electrical situation is a little worse. I remember back on the test Ceed JD with parking sensors and a rear camera, I had to turn it back with the door half open until the sensors frantically hysteria in the absence of obstacles, and the screen after a 10-minute trip in the rain simply gave out a “dirty” spot on the screen. So it is quite expected that in daily operation Ceed periodically "loses contact" somewhere.
Thus, the heating filaments of the front seats are melted. Don't even think about leaning on the pillows with your knees
In practice, parking sensors did indeed fail, the standard antenna also “died”, however, the most popular weak point in the Ceed electrics are ABS sensors - they go to another world one by one, sometimes until everything is updated. In general, if the brake pedal suddenly jumped for no reason during deceleration, and the corresponding icon on the dashboard lit up, then we read the errors and change the desired sensor, as a rule, the rear right one is updated first.
Some "lucky" owners have learned how to change ABS sensors with their eyes closed
The most expensive repair will be if you oversleep the revocable campaign to replace the fuel pump. An electric motor is not cheap, it is not easy to change. Another thing is if the heater fan makes noise, it can whistle until the owner's patience runs out.
The "whistling" of the heater fan does not bear any consequences for the owner, except for psychological ones.
flickering or complete failure daytime running lights dealers fix by replacing the entire headlight assembly. While they work warranty obligations manufacturer, this method looks quite attractive, there is even a possibility that new optics won't "sweat". If there are none, then in order to avoid total costs, you will have to contact an electrician or solder the DRL contacts yourself. As practice has shown, many owners of Kia Ceed know how to work with their hands.
Missing daytime running lights means replacing the headlight unit at the dealer, or soldering the contacts at the electrician
Stuffing for those who are not afraid of problems
Those who choose a fatter package for themselves will have to take into account some electric costs and be patient, because the unexpected failure of comfort systems causes the owner more inconvenience than the malfunction of those parts. In the "black list" of options seen in an unexpected breakdown, there was a system keyless entry Smart Key with sensor failure, heated seats with burnt out threads and multi-steering wheel with a malfunction slip ring.
The more complete the equipment, the more functions will be lost in the event of a breakdown of the slip ring of the steering column
"Kozhzam" in expensive trim levels also short-lived, bursts in places of folds even at low runs. The rag interior in cheaper versions retains its original appearance longer and requires only periodic elimination of stains after wet clothes. The materials of the remaining elements of the interior cannot be called expensive and soft either - the class is not the same, but there were few sources of creaking in the cabin. And in general, if we dismiss the case of spontaneous lowering of the driver's seat, then Salon Ceed unpretentious and comfortable.
The fabric interior turned out to be more durable, but easily soiled
Kia Ceed JD with mileage of 100,000 km
Almost all Kia Ceed JDs we examined with mileage close to 100,000 km had hard deposits under the valve cover. And this, of course, is connected with the regulations, which, after buying a car, will have to be halved, otherwise the motor may simply not reach the next such milestone. Otherwise, there are no questions either to the motor or to the box. But in the suspension, as a rule, something is sure to knock, and basically, these are either “molts” or steering tips - in general, a trifle.
In the cabin, by 100,000 km, the steering wheel is decently overwritten, whether it be leather or even plastic, but in general car after a more or less careful owner, it looks relatively fresh, if not almost new.
After 100 thousand km, the steering wheel practically loses its original appearance
A little strange, but among the used cars we checked, there were many "Seeds" after serious accidents. It is difficult to say what this is connected with, perhaps it was we who “luckily” spent time looking at the beating. With station wagons, the situation is better - people in years still drive more carefully.
Salon Kia Ceed JD retains its original appearance for a long time
Should I buy Kia Ceed 2 generations
As you probably already understood, we have no serious reasons to dissuade you from any engine, gearbox, and even more so from the very fact of buying a model. Ceed JD in any version will be almost equally reliable, but with a specific list of weaknesses. Of course, the priority is the most "fresh" copies with low mileage. Just a gift to you will be a car that has recently changed the chain and removed the "catalyst" - this will save you from unnecessary expensive trouble. The only thing left to follow is undercarriage and electronics, and the fewer options there are in the car, the less time and money you will spend on diagnostics and repairs.
This, at first glance, self-made plate bears a “Russian” VIN number. Location - B-pillar on the right
Forensic markings
Like many cars manufactured by Avtotor, the VIN number plate is located on the right central pillar. If you see symbols on it that seem to have been knocked out with a screwdriver, then most likely it is not fake. In this regard, be sure to check the “Korean” VIN, which is “hidden” under the passenger front seat, and the main Russian number on the right front side member. Everything should be there, as it should be - even symbols, factory color. Duplicate plates are located under the windshield and on the left B-pillar in the form of a sticker. Number Kia engine Ceed is located on the flange, next to the gearbox, access to it is absolutely free.
Be sure to check the "Korean" VIN (on the left in the TCP, under the right front seat in the car). Much harder to fake
Competitors
Among Kia rivals Ceed JD many platform models: Kia Cerato, Hyundai i30, Hyundai Elantra. If you don’t like the facelessness of the “Koreans”, then you can consider a more convenient, but expensive to maintain, typical balanced “German” Volkswagen Golf, family, GM Opel Astra and on the "mechanics", or add a little and consider the "Japanese" in the form or Toyota Corolla.
KIA Ceed built on the basis of the Hyundai-Kia J5 platform. Since 2006, the model has been equipped with CVVT gasoline engines and diesel units with common rail injection system. On the machines of the first generation, the most common were 4-cylinder gasoline engines of 1.4 liters and 1.6 liters with a capacity of 100 and 129 hp. With. respectively.
The 1.4-liter engine with factory marking G4FA, like the older “brother” - G4FC, has a chain drive. The cylinder block in both cases is made of aluminum, the only significant difference is the crankshaft and different piston stroke. The resource of KIA Sid G4FA and G4FC engines, according to the manufacturer, is at least 180 thousand km. In practice, these engines quietly go 250-300 thousand km.
The most powerful on the first generation KIA Sid was a two-liter gasoline engine with 2 liters. It is marked G4GC and produces 143 hp. With. power. The cylinder block is based on cast iron. And the resource of the unit, subject to normal maintenance and operation, exceeds 300 thousand km.
More rare in Russia is considered KIA Sid with diesel engine 1.6 CRDi. Its block is made of cast iron, and the turbine has changeable geometry. Power varies depending on the version within 122 liters. With. The main advantages of this engine are good throttle response and low consumption. But when refueling with low-grade diesel fuel, problems with the catalyst may begin, particulate filter, fuel system.
The power units on the first generation KIA Ceed are paired with a five- or six-speed mechanics, a four-speed automatic. Reviews about the A4CF2 machine are mostly positive, the owners praise the adaptability of the transmission and smooth switching. The box is built on the basis of a reliable Japanese analogue F4A42. But with runs over 200 thousand km, breakdowns of the valve body and solenoids may occur. The problem is exacerbated by the untimely replacement of oil, which becomes contaminated and overheats, clogging the channels of the hydraulic plate.
As for the mechanics that KIA Sid was equipped with until 2012, it differs from the previously used boxes. There is a 3-axle gear train, and thanks to the cymbal synchronizer, it is possible to quickly and accurately select the desired gears. Available different models 5-speed manual transmission (M5CF3, M5CF2, M5CF1), as well as 6-speed M6CF2, which is based on a two-shaft scheme with synchronized gears.
Powertrains KIA Sid second generation
In 2012, the Korean auto company presented the second generation Kia Sid. The 1.4-liter G4FD and 1.6-liter G4FJ engines became available to customers. Their power is 130 and 204 hp. With. The most powerful G4FJ engine in the line is installed on the GT version. Also found GDI engine for 1.6 liters with a capacity of 135 Horse power, which works in conjunction with a 6-speed DCT robot.
The power units work in conjunction with a 6-speed mechanics or a 6-speed automatic A6GF1. This automatic transmission is quite reliable if you keep the oil clean and avoid overheating. In case of untimely maintenance, the hydraulic unit is the first to fail, namely the hydraulic plate.
When oil leaks, the solenoid valves wear out, and then the clutches. If you allow frequent slipping, drive the KIA Sid really aggressively, there are likely problems with the differential case, on which the splines are torn off. This is manifested by a characteristic crunch.
Weaknesses and in-place repair of KIA Ceed
Engines
The first problems with KIA motors Sid on 1.4 and 1.6 liters can start after 100 thousand km. So, with a run of 100-120 thousand km, the chain in the timing drive begins to stretch. If it is not changed, it is possible serious damage. Crankshaft liners and piston rings survive up to 150-170 thousand km. In some cases, on Idling appears strange vibration, which is provoked by wear of the motor mounts or a software failure.
IN diesel versions, which were not officially delivered to Russia, with solid runs, problems with the turbine appear. This is noticeable by the increased oil consumption, which takes up to 400 g per one thousand kilometers.
At the heart of the cylinder block, pistons of the G4FA, G4FC, G4FD, G4FJ engines is aluminum. The sleeves used are made of cast iron. Oil volume in lubrication system is 3.3 liters. To restore these power units suitable attachment. It will act in a complex way: it will clean aluminum surfaces from carbon deposits, contribute to their micro-grinding, build up a layer of cermet on cast iron sleeves. The use of RVS Master will eventually give the following results:
- Strengthening friction units.
- Compression normalization.
- Reduced fuel and oil consumption.
- Simplify cold start and minimize wear at this point.
To process a two-liter G4GC gasoline engine, a similar RVS Master Engine Ga4 additive will be required. But the result of its application will be even more noticeable, since the cylinder block is made of cast iron according to the old, time-tested technology.
If you are one of the owners of KIA Sid with a D4FB diesel engine, we recommend using an additive to extend the life and improve performance. This will extend the life of friction pairs, protecting them with a dense layer of cermet. But at high loads, these same friction pairs can partially come into contact due to the instability of the oil film. Through the use of additives for diesel engine 1.6 CRDi will succeed:
- Strengthen friction points.
- Normalize compression.
- Facilitate starting at sub-zero temperatures.
- Reduce fuel consumption by 7-15%.
transmissions
IN mechanical transmission KIA Sid of the first generation are considered the weak point of the clutch, gears, 3rd gear retaining ring. With wear, the noise of the box increases, a crunch appears when shifting gears. The same A4CF2 machine is more reliable. It rarely causes problems with runs up to 200 thousand km. In the first batches of KIA Seed in the automatic transmission, there were breakdowns of the input shaft.
But mechanical and automatic six-speed boxes on the KIA Sid of the second generation cause less criticism. Although there are still few copies with solid runs. To extend the life of manual transmission and automatic transmission, we recommend using oil additives. They form a dense layer of cermet on worn surfaces and reduce transmission noise. For automatic KIA Ceed is suitable, but for mechanics -.
Fuel system
Diesel versions of KIA Sid are sensitive to fuel quality. If you refuel with low-quality diesel fuel, the injectors, fuel pump, EGR valve are likely to become clogged. To prevent this from happening, add to the tank. The additive will increase the cetane index by 3–5 units, reduce the amount of deposits in the combustion chamber, minimize consumption, and facilitate start-up at sub-zero temperature. After all, FuelEXx was developed specifically for the characteristics of Russian diesel fuel, taking into account climatic features region.
For petrol versions KIA Sid will fit FuelEXx Gasoline. The additive increases the octane index of gasoline by 3–5 units, removes carbon deposits and varnish deposits from the walls of the combustion chamber, minimizes the wear of the CPG when refueling with fuel of dubious quality, and contributes to the decoking of piston rings. Also, the FuelEXx additive will remove water from the fuel, which will facilitate starting in winter time of the year.
12.03.2017
– segment car C» ( By European classification ), developed by Kia Motors and produced since 2007. Kia Sid became the first car of the Korean company, which marked with its appearance a new era in the history of the brand, since this particular model became a separate page in the development of the company and the first Korean car designed for the European market. Since then, Sid has spread around the world in a million copies and has become a real bestseller in many markets, including CIS. And, here's how things are with the reliability of this model and what you should pay attention to when buying a Kia Sid with mileage, now let's try to figure it out.
A bit of history:
The debut of Kia Sid took place in 2006 at the international auto show in Paris. The design of the car was developed specifically for the European market by a German design studio and received the abbreviation " ED". At the end of 2006 at the new plant Kia Motors In Slovakia, the first production car rolled off the assembly line. For the CIS markets, the car is assembled in Kaliningrad, Russia. Initially, Kia Sid was produced only in a hatchback body, but already in 2007 it debuted on the market (station wagon). In 2009, a restyled Kia version Sid. The main changes affected the grille, interior design and lighting. In 2013, a presentation of a charged version took place Kia pro_cee'd GT and 5-door hatchback cee'd GT. Kia Sid has repeatedly been the winner in the nominations " Car of the Year», « Best Allrounder " And " Best hatchback».
The Western market has always been a tidbit for Koreans, but it is not so easy to capture it. However, this was the goal, so the company took an interesting step: сee'd was developed in Western Europe - in particular, the Germans were engaged in design in Rüsselsheim, and its assembly is carried out in Korea, Slovakia, Kazakhstan, and for Russian market- in Kaliningrad. The name cee'd itself has an interesting origin: it takes its origin from the abbreviation of the words Communauté européenne (CE, European Community) and European design(ED). All together it turns out Community of Europe and European Design, in short - cee'd. Please note that the word cee'd is written with a lowercase "s", and not a capital one.
And, oddly enough, the Koreans managed to make a car that Europeans liked. Cee'd received awards in different nominations in Sweden, Greece, Belgium, Romania, Poland and Lithuania. Even the pompous English snob Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear was forced to admit: "The new version of the Kia Seed is taking the world by storm." According to the results of the test, the most authoritative auto journalist (according to Clarkson himself) admitted that the car was "beautiful both outside and inside." True, he hinted at some kind of seven-year guarantee, which they have not heard of in Russia - in our country its term is five years. As much as we respect old Jeremy, let's check the car ourselves. Can we find something he missed?
Inspection at a car service
We have traditionally entrusted car diagnostics to service station specialists G-Energy Racing Service. Our Seed, released in 2012, and purchased at a discount from a dealer in 2013, drives into the lift. The master checks the chassis silently, and this is a good sign: for 40 thousand mileage, no problems were found in it. The only comment is the bushing of the front suspension stabilizer. It's time to replace it, and everything else is in order. However, the technical center specialist still notes that the suspension lives much longer on a good road, and for trips out of town, he would advise choosing another car. And the point is not only a small clearance, but also a certain weakness of the suspension, which does not tolerate road bumps very well.
Our Sid does not have an owner, but there is a hostess who takes care of the car and all MOT goes through the dealer. After TO-2, the car has already covered 10 thousand kilometers, but it was during it that the dealer made a recommendation to urgently replace the rear pads (all Sid's disc brakes). The master looks at the wear of the rear pads: the rest is 55-60% ... Why did the dealer seek to replace them? Divorce attempt? Probably. Moreover, it is easier to make a client pay than a client. Just in case, I later looked at the pads myself: yes, they still have to ride and ride. But the front pads have already been changed, and, most likely, they did the right thing. The rear suspension is multi-link. Its use increases controllability in comparison with a beam, and when careful operation, according to the master, it does not cause trouble. Although he still repeats that it’s not worth driving over bumps in Side: you can “break through” the suspension even with a small car load. But the master notes the good maintainability of the "multi-link" and the low cost of its spare parts.
The 1.6-liter engine also did not cause any complaints. Its feature is a timing chain drive and the absence of hydraulic lifters. On the one hand, there is no need to periodically replace the belt, but valve adjustment is required. It is good that the last procedure is performed rarely: once every 90 thousand. The service station master says that Sid's engine is reliable, like most Korean engines, and they don't come to them for repairs. Another thing is MOT, which not everyone wants to go through at an authorized dealer. Despite rich equipment of our car (however, Sid even has a lot of “sweets” in the database, which we will talk about a little later), all systems turned out to be serviceable. Well, let's take the car off the lift and listen to the owner's opinion.
Owner's opinion
Car pluses Of course, in the assessment of a beloved car by a female hostess, there is a considerable amount of subjective “mi-mi-mi”. And yet, we highlight the main positive aspects, according to the owner.
The previous car was the VAZ-2114, which fully explains the extreme degree of enthusiasm for their Sid. There was practically no question of choice. Kia cee'd immediately liked the look, and the interior and dashboard only approved the decision to take this particular car. Needless to say, both the exterior and the interior of the car were a success - you can't argue with that.
Attracts a good set of options available already in the database. Even the simplest configuration of Sid has front and side airbags and curtain airbags, anti-lock braking system brakes, warning system emergency braking(ESS), multifunction steering wheel, power front windows, adjustable steering column for height and reach, six speakers and power door mirrors. Agree, this is a very good set! The hostess, not spoiled by the previous "fourteenth", of course, appreciated such "minced meat". Even more, she appreciated the presence of a heated steering wheel, cruise control and hands-free. And of course - dashboard, "as in an airplane."
There were no complaints about the car and the operation of the equipment for two and a half years. Sit comfortably, ride long distance(the car has already been in long-distance runs of 4.5 thousand in both directions) nice. Winter trips are comfortable, the “stove” heats up, and in summer the air conditioner works efficiently (it is not available only in the configuration with climate control), and we note that turning it on has little effect on the dynamics of the car.
Cons of the car
The lack of a car, according to the hostess, is one - gasoline consumption. I’ll say in Sid’s defense: 9-9.5 liters in the city on an “automatic” and with 129 “horses” under the hood is not so scary. Although, looking ahead, I will also note that the expense has become one of the few things that displease Sid's owners on the Internet. On this, all the shortcomings that, apparently, a very loving hostess found, ended. Well, so much the worse for Kia: you'll have to find them yourself.1 / 6
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What is written on the forums
Let's say right away: the reviews are mostly positive. The main complaints are caused by a small clearance and relatively weak suspension who doesn't love too much country roads especially if the car is well loaded. Many call the stabilizer struts " consumable”, and in our car only the rack aroused the professional interest of the car service master. Periodically, there are negative assessments of the paintwork, and we will pay attention to this a little later. Owners of cars with an "automatic" (like ours) do not say too much good dynamics during acceleration. Many do not like the noise - they say, soundproofing could be better. Especially often such a comment concerns the wheel arches. Quite often they scold the appetite of the engine and a weak regular battery.
The good sides of the car are found significantly more. First of all, it concerns appearance(although this is a subjective assessment) and good equipment even in the basic version. They note the reliability of the motor, its good suitability for areas with a cold climate. Of course, I like the interior: there is enough space both in the front and in the rear seats. The dashboard looks great, the readings are easy to read, the plastic is of high quality and looks moderately expensive. Note that the handling of the Kia Sid causes extremely positive emotions among the owners - it was not possible to meet complaints about it, but there are a lot of laudatory messages. I am glad that an important factor in evaluating the car was its passive safety. Six pillows is serious, especially considering that they are in all trim levels. They note the low cost of maintenance and a good selection of additional options, and for sane money.
