Good day, I have an IP on a taxi. Cars are registered to individuals. The license was issued by another organization, how is the waybill filled in in such cases? As I understand it, the seal and details should be for the organization that received the licenses, there are some other ways to fill it out without involving the organization that received the licenses

First, a taxi permit is issued. The license is issued only for Passenger Transportation over 8 people. A waybill is required for the carriage of passengers and goods. By OKVED taxi is a carrier for which the requirements of paragraph 4 of article 20 of the Law 196-FZ are mandatory.

On the way we read the 152nd order. Briefly. The waybill is issued by the carrier. All his details. The obligation to prove the existence of a car in the right of ownership on any legal grounds is only with the carrier by buses, he is obliged to carry with him acts of transfer and lease agreements. IN this case chain: carrier, he is also the owner of a permit for the transportation of taxi passengers => the details of the carrier are indicated in the waybill (everything is issued by order). No one else has the right to issue a waybill, except for the carrier.

Good afternoon Please tell me, according to the situation: is registration required? waybill as a driver of an organization engaged in the transportation of scrap metal from counterparties, in cases where they do not go on a flight during the working day due to the lack of purchases from counterparties, although the driver left for work, but there is no one to go to. And is the absence of a waybill in this case a reason for registration in the time sheet of absenteeism?

Marina, this has nothing to do with transport legislation. How to charge and pay - there are specially trained people. If they don't know, management should think about it.

Marina, Hello.

Unfortunately, I can’t advise you on the issue of filling out the time sheet, because. I am not very familiar with the law in this area.

Good luck on the roads!

Marina, Hello.

If the car does not leave, then it does not need a waybill.

Not required by law. But everything is set by the rules of the office. I know that many write out the so-called "repair" waybills. This is mainly done by large offices, using such sheets they write off fuel by engine hours, take into account operating hours by engine hours, etc. I wrote the previous time that your answer is that it is not necessary. And let all kinds of accountants decide everything else.

Yana accountant

Good evening, please tell me how to properly tax the waybill for 2 identical flights and 2 or more different flights made within the same day. If I tax them in the following way, is this correct?: I added up the distances for 3 flights and indicated the average tonnage, so that t / km would be correct - is this a mistake? What is the responsibility for incorrect taxation? Thank you

The question is off topic. This is where the traffic laws come into play. GAI and UGADN Your calculations are not interested.

Good afternoon

Is it necessary to have a waybill with a mark of a medical examination if an employee of an LLC drives a vehicle to perform his duties? official duties not related to the carriage of passengers, cargo or baggage? The power of attorney was canceled, the employee moves to a car with his employment contract confirming his involvement in the LLC and the vehicle rental agreement between the LLC and another LLC (owner), as well as open insurance. According to general practice and according to the legislation, a waybill is not required, but what if an accident occurs and compensation for OSAGO and the FSS is required, as an industrial injury (movement on company car V work time By official duties)? An employee travels by car on business trips, both long-term and one-day.

Item SDA, which indicates what the driver must present, has already been canceled?

Good afternoon

The situation is as follows, we are at the field, we have a loader, shift worker and truck crane on staff. We issue one voucher for 2 weeks and the work goes to the night and day shifts. Vehicles operate only on the territory of the field, departure to the city is carried out only in winter time. Is it necessary to release the vehicle on the line every shift (namely the shift) and make notes in the Journal for the release of the vehicle on the line, as well as in the Registration Journal pretrip control(Is this not the same magazine?) Or is it enough to carry out such procedures only when issuing a new permit?

Nadin706, Hello.

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you how work-related injuries are documented, because. I am not very familiar with labor law.

Try to consult on this issue in the FSS. They will tell you which documents are required in the situation described.

Good luck on the roads!

Novel, Hello.

medical examination and technical control are pre-trip, i.e. must be carried out before each flight. Moreover, if it is indicated in the waybills of your organization that the waybill is issued for 1 flight, which lasts 2 weeks, then inspections should be carried out only at the beginning of the flight.

Some organizations make one waybill for several flights (i.e. there are several flights in the text of the waybill). In this scenario, inspections are carried out before each flight.

The magazine for pretrip control was discussed in. With regard to the magazine for the release of the line, please indicate in which normative document You have come across a mention of this magazine.

Good luck on the roads!

Novel,

The magazine for pretrip control was discussed in. As for the magazine for the issue of the line, please indicate in which regulatory document you met the mention of this magazine.

He just named it wrong.

Vasily-72

Good evening!

This whole situation is completely absurd, let's try to figure it out!

I have an individual entrepreneur for the transportation of goods, I have a Mercedes Sprinter car with gross weight up to 3500 kg. I have been working for 9 years, I have traveled half of Russia and more than once, they never asked me for a submarine, but not so long ago I ran into this, IDPS demanded a submarine from me, of course I didn’t have it. , but this question hurts me! So, the vehicle is issued to an individual, it is controlled by an individual, but he has an individual entrepreneur, now the questions are:

1. Why am I charged with a fine for an individual entrepreneur if an individual is driving (the fact that he does the work of transporting goods through an individual entrepreneur, this still needs to be confirmed and proved)?

2. We simulate the situation, I was stopped by IDPS, asks "what are we taking" to this question, I answer "personal belongings", what next?

The traffic cop just acts randomly. Here only to sue, which is tedious. You have a large (relatively) car, conspicuous. Here they are digging in. So you can get to the point that you will go to the "shohe" and they will start asking you for tickets. And suddenly IP shnik, and even after December 21st.

Tell me, is there an example of how a waybill should be drawn up correctly, taking into account the fact that the working day is 8 hours. Maybe someone has an example, from which we used to fill out one example each, and now in the SAI they say that there are errors. But no one speaks correctly, help me figure it out, I would very much like to see examples.

Tell me, is there an example of how a waybill should be drawn up correctly, taking into account the fact that the working day is 8 hours.

Fill it out as you wish. The 152nd order defines only those details that must be present. Everything superfluous can be stupidly removed. Time, so as not to bother, set no more than 9 hours with lunch, because. here there is another plus one "underground" hour - the time of preparatory and final work. Send me your sheet to my mail, and I will correct it.

now in Gai they say that there are mistakes.

Immediately question. Are you supposed to write sheets? Are you a carrier organization? If not, then the voucher Your internal document, as I want, I draw.

Hello.

Please help with advice. The situation is as follows:

There is a legal entity that is the owner of the cargo vehicle. We conclude long-term contract with IP (driver) for the carriage of goods on this vehicle. It can make up to 5 flights per day. The questions are:

1) Who draws up waybills, legal entity or individual entrepreneur? And in what form should the waybill be?

2) Suppose the carrying capacity of a car is 3 tons, and it must transport 6 tons per day. Should it be reflected somewhere in the waybill that it carries this volume in two flights?

3) Is it possible to organize such a scheme - write out a waybill for 1 month, in the columns where the route is indicated put a mark - "According to the route sheet" and issue a route sheet with the addresses of everyone to the driver every day?

4) In the state of the legal entity there is a responsible for transport, can he put his mark on the waybill? Also, the legal entity has a contract with a medical organization, is their mark taking place?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Hello.

Please help with advice.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

There are many questions, you get tired of answering. Briefly. Transport is the property of an organization that moves its property (cargo) for its own needs. The driver, he is also an individual entrepreneur - an ordinary driver, only relations with him are framed in this way. If you wish, you can write out a waybill. Your organization, as I understand it, does not carry out such an activity as the provision of cargo transportation services. Therefore, a waybill is not required. Moreover, no waybills are needed, except for the transportation of timber and bulk materials. And then, there are other rules of law. It's easier to show that you didn't steal the cargo. In other cases - the presumption of innocence. Let them prove that you stole. Also, according to part 1 of article 20, such an organization is not obliged to conduct a pre-trip inspection. A doctor is needed, because this requirement is mandatory. If there is no ticket, then let them look for confirmation of passage in the journal of a physician.

For the correct execution of a ticket, if you want to write it out, read the 152nd order of the Ministry of Transport.

The most interesting will be after. Gentlemen traffic cops almost without exception do not read orders. And they firmly believe that if you have a bag of paper clips in your back, transported from your warehouses and offices, then this is already a commercial transportation of goods. The massive presence of such "smart" judges is also upsetting. Remember where you live. Practically, it remained the same in terms of concepts.

Good afternoon

Do I need a waybill if I drive an organization's car, which is provided to me for use around the clock?

You have a power of attorney and a contract of use vehicle, where it is indicated that I use the car to perform official duties (there is no indication that this is NOT transportation of goods / passengers).

Can I transport relatives/colleagues/friends or various goods or materials (both for work and personal purposes) in the car? And do I have to prove to the traffic police inspector that I am not engaged in commercial transportation (which is the reason for the mandatory presence of a waybill)?

I respected everything. I don’t understand one thing: what difference does it make for a traffic police officer when I take an old sofa, a refrigerator and a wardrobe to my dacha, 200 km away, how individual, or for the same 200 km., I carry with invoices as an individual entrepreneur on my gazelle, which is registered to me as a physical. person, 4 cable flights for example? When I carry a sofa for myself, am I less dangerous on the road?))) How can a nurse who stamped at 6.00 in the morning, checked the pressure, 120/80, be responsible for the fact that I had a heart attack at 12.00, or I, due to my stupidity, swelled at 13.00 ???)) I, for example, have a UTII taxation system, why do I need a waybill? I was stopped, where is the ticket? Why do you need an inspector ticket, I have UTII, I pay fixed taxes, I don’t hide anything, I’m an individual entrepreneur? What's going on, what the hell?

You answered yourself - nonsense. Stupidity and stick system. The rule of law only on news channels.

Ilya-60, I support the question.

By law, at least until December 21 this year. do not need anything. "According to the concepts" - a travel guide with all the consequences is really needed. The fact is that traffic cops do not read the laws. The courts are completely on the side of government agencies.

Is the following order of explanations to the traffic police officer possible:

I drive a car owned by an organization, for me, as an individual. a person issued a power of attorney for the right to manage. Accordingly, by proxy, the car is driven by a natural person. person, not an employee of the organization. To the physical persons do not apply the list of documents applicable to drivers of legal entities. persons.

It seems that everything is within the framework of logic and law, is it possible?

Key phrase "car owned by the organization"In the future, it all depends on who you run into. To make it clear, at present, a waybill is needed exclusively for legal entities and individual entrepreneurs, and only in those cases when they are engaged in the transportation of goods and passengers. And "transportation" is understood according to the Civil Code of the Russian Federation and the Charter of Motor Transport, it is simpler: the type of activity must be registered in OKVED as the provision of transportation services.Plus, there must be documents confirming the transportation (waybills, tickets, contracts, etc.) In other cases, this is no longer a transportation, but a movement goods and people to provide for the organization's own needs. But uneducated traffic cops do not understand this, they read the definition from the traffic rules. But the traffic rules describe these cases as a process, but not as an activity. This is the difference.

I think that you understand everything. And now try to prove it all to a traffic cop who was employed by an ad.

The magistrates' courts have the audacity to cancel the international treaties of the Russian Federation. If you are interested, I will post a brief extract from my appeal against ADR, when the justice of the peace even put the instructions of the Ministry of Transport and the traffic police of the Russian Federation on the provision of ADR, and satisfied the whims of an illiterate inspector of the UGADN.

Good evening, if the controller did not allow the car to enter the flight technical faults, and the driver left without the controller's signature, does the controller answer that the driver left for the flight?

Ruslan, Hello.

The controller is not responsible, because he did not let the car go.

Good luck on the roads!

I read and freak out. So everything is ordinary, as if it should be so. "The controller released" ... And the fact that only carriers should do the release is somehow forgotten. Do we find ourselves hemorrhoids?

This is the original document. It is used for accounting passenger vehicles and is the basis for calculating the salary of the driver. Issued by the enterprise dispatcher in one copy. Most often - for one day or a shift.

Front side

Back side

The maximum period for which it can be filled out is one month (see clause 10 of the order of the Ministry of Transport “On the approval of mandatory details and the procedure for filling out waybills” dated September 18, 2008 No. 152). In this case, the form is filled out in the same way as usual. The only difference is that the sample waybill passenger car for a month will contain data on the date of departure of the machine for the task and the date of its return.

For whom is it required?

You must fill out a waybill if:

• according to paragraph 2 of Art. 6 of the Charter of road transport and urban ground electric transport dated 08.11.2007 No. 259-ФЗ transportation of people, luggage and various cargoes using public transport without this document is prohibited. This rule applies to all transport companies carrying out passenger and cargo transportation;
• the company does not provide such services, but uses passenger vehicles in its work, with the help of sheets, the accountant will be able to confirm and write off the costs of fuel and lubricants;
• the driver is working own car and he is compensated for the cost of fuel.

Which form should be used?

As a form, you can use form 3, approved by the Decree of the State Statistics Committee of the Russian Federation of November 28, 1997 No. 78. It is not mandatory for use. The company can develop its own form of the form and use it in the work.

The waybill of a passenger car (form 3) contains a list of mandatory details of the document specified in the order of the Ministry of Transport of September 18, 2008 No. 152. On February 26, 2017, it was adopted new edition(Order of the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation dated January 18, 2017 No. 17), but the list has not changed and includes the following information.

• date of issue and document number;
• features of transportation;
• driver data;
• vehicle information.

Therefore, the new form of the waybill for a passenger car in 2019 must be filled out according to the following rules:

• stamp and seal of the owner motor vehicle do not need to be placed at the top of the document;
• V without fail you must indicate the date and time of the technical inspection of the car by a mechanic before leaving for the flight. Also, the specialist who inspected the car must indicate his position, full name and personal signature;
• the document must contain a doctor's mark on the driver.

Responsibility for the absence of a document

Absence this document may lead to administrative liability:

• for the driver, the amount of the fine will be 500 rubles (part 2 of article 12.3 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation);
• a fine for a legal entity will be 100 thousand rubles (part 1 of article 12.31.1 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation).

To record and control the operation of a vehicle and a driver in an organization, as a rule, a special primary document is used - a waybill. On the forms of waybills used in practice, and will be discussed.

Waybill Forms

The organization can use independently developed forms of waybills or forms approved by the State Statistics Committee or industry departments and finalized taking into account the current requirements of the law. In any case, the applicable forms of waybills of the organization must be fixed in your own.

At the same time, it is important that the waybills for cars, trucks, buses, trolleybuses and trams contain mandatory details, which are provided for in paragraph 3 of the Order of the Ministry of Transport of September 18, 2008 No. 152 (Letter of the Ministry of Finance of August 25, 2009 No. 03-03-06 / 2/161):

• name and number of the waybill;
• information about the validity of the waybill;
• information about the owner (owner) of the vehicle;
• information about the vehicle;
• driver information.

When compiling waybills in 2018-2019, it is necessary to take into account the changes made to the Procedure for filling out waybills (Order of the Ministry of Transport dated September 18, 2008 No. 152) by Orders of the Ministry of Transport dated January 18, 2017 No. 17, dated November 07, 2017 No. 476.

So, the waybill does not have to have a seal (stamp) of the organization or individual entrepreneur. At the same time, it should be marked with a pre-trip control. technical condition vehicle (clause 16.1 of the Order of the Ministry of Transport of September 18, 2008 No. 152). To do this, the following information must be provided on the form sheet:

• date and time of the pre-trip inspection of the technical condition;
• signature, full name controller.

The obligation to enter information on the pre-trip control of the technical condition of the vehicle in the waybill applies not only to organizations and individual entrepreneurs that provide services by car, but also for those who operate transport exclusively for their own production purposes (Letter of the Ministry of Transport of September 28, 2018 No. 03-01 / 21740-IS, paragraph 3 of the Resolution of the Plenum of the Supreme Court of June 26, 2018 No. 26).

Waybills: forms (download)

TO special vehicles includes vehicles designed to perform special functions and equipped with special equipment to perform the specified functions (for example, fire trucks, truck cranes, concrete mixer trucks, cars with compressor units, etc.).

Therefore, if you need, for example, a waybill for a truck crane (form), you can download it for free from the link above.

Decree of the Ministry of Labor of 07.07.1999 No. 18 approved the recommended form

The primary document for accounting for the operation of passenger vehicles and the basis for accrual wages the driver is, as a rule, the waybill of the car. Here is an example of filling out a waybill for a car in our consultation.

Passenger car waybill form

The waybill for a passenger car (form No. 3) was approved by the Decree of the State Statistics Committee of the Russian Federation of November 28, 1997 No. 78.

Sample waybill for a car:

At the same time, even deciding to use a unified form, it will have to be finalized. For example, it will need to indicate the date and time of the pre-trip and post-trip medical examination of the driver.

And if the organization provides transport services, the waybill will also have to reflect information about the pre-trip control of the technical condition of the car (clause 16.1 of the Order of the Ministry of Transport dated September 18, 2008 No. 152, clause 4 article 20 of the Federal Law dated December 10, 1995 No. 196- FZ). Also, the mandatory information about the owner (owner) of the vehicle in the waybill includes OGRN / OGRNIP.

How to fill out a waybill for a car

Let's show an example of filling new form waybill of a passenger car in 2018, taking into account the requirements of paragraph 3 of the Order of the Ministry of Transport of September 18, 2008 No. 152.

We assume that the car is not used for rendering transport services, therefore, we do not provide information on the pre-trip control of the technical condition of the vehicle in the new form of the waybill for a passenger car 2018.