Where, by the way, the Lacetti has been produced for more than ten years, but until recently it was not officially delivered to Russia. But now, at a price, it is a direct competitor to Renault Logan. Let's compare "oldies"?
ALL THE FACES YOU KNOW?
Both cars are almost native in profile. But the Gentra's front end was changed: the headlights are similar to those put on the Lacetti hatchback. Because of them, they slightly changed the shape of the hood, updated the front bumper and grille. Behind from the new - only nameplates. "Logan" has not changed since the restyling of 2009: from the updates, only the rims of the "winter / summer 2013" collection.
Inside the Gentra, everything is also familiar. The only differences are in the block of the multimedia system and the emblem on the steering wheel. It took a little longer than usual to adjust the seat. It's just fun to feel how the pillow changes the angle of inclination, and not the usual move up and down. However, so was the predecessor. Oh, there's also a lumbar support adjustment! In the maximum position, it turned out to be quite dense.
Having adjusted the steering wheel hub (not only in terms of tilt, but also in reach), I look around. The salon is assembled neatly and, according to the eastern tradition, is not devoid of decor - the Uzbeks could not resist and decorated the front panel and doors with a plastic “tree”. The salon does not press on the shoulders, but it is cramped in the head area - tall drivers often encounter this in cars with a sunroof.
Whether business "Logan"! It feels like the roof is noticeably higher here. This is confirmed by the figures: from the pillow to the ceiling 1010 mm - 55 mm more than the competitor. And for this I forgive the seat with a practical fabric upholstery for a stool fit and the absence of a lumbar support. And you can’t pull the steering wheel towards you, as in the Gentra: the adjustment is only for the angle of inclination. I do not agree with the location of the horn button at the end of the steering column switch, the power window buttons on the center console, the mirror adjustment joystick on the floor tunnel. However, it's all a matter of habit.
Climate controls in cars are traditional; even a child can figure out the buttons and knobs. But in Gentra, this part of the center console looks more interesting. But "Logan" takes an excellent view: a large rear window and large mirrors make it easy to control everything that happens behind the stern.
LOOK BACK
The doors opened wide, inviting them to sit on the sofa. Interestingly, the distance from the pillow to the ceiling is the same for competitors, but at the same time, Logan and Gentra are opposites. The Renault has a lot of space in the head and shoulder area, while the Daewoo is a bit cramped, and the sloping roof line visually compresses the interior.
But in the "Gentra" there is more space in the knees and the seat is not like that of the opponent - ergonomic, with a good armrest. And yes, the back is foldable. This allows you to transport long lengths, which Logan, with its tightly screwed rear sofa, never dreamed of. True, the Renault trunk is still larger, and the opening is wider.
Under the floor of the cargo compartment of both, full-size spares are not superfluous in our conditions. However, only the French saved on the inner upholstery of the lid ... sorry, the Russians, which automatically does honor to the Koreans ... that is, the Uzbeks.
MOVEMENT - LIFE
Almost all the bananas have already been cut off the palm tree, so furiously these two are fighting for victory. It looks like it will go to the one whose driving performance is better.
I fire up the Gentry engine that meets Euro-5 standards (J200-B15D was assembled in Uzbekistan and is somewhat different from the Chevrolet-Cobalt unit) and pour into the city crowd. From the bottom, the engine picks up confidently, and the clutch pedal is located so that the knee does not start to ache after an hour of twitching in metropolitan traffic. But on the highway after 4000 rpm, the engine turns sour.
Sixteen-valve "Logan" is even more fun on the bottoms and faster at medium speeds. When accelerating to 60 km / h, it outperforms the competitor by 1.3 s, and at 100 km / h it breaks away already by 2.1 s. It seems to be not so much, but in the city I liked Renault more. "Gentra" bounced back at maximum speed (9.1 km / h more) and informative brakes. The effort on the pedals is a little clearer, and this "slightly" pulled sympathy. The reasons for the slight difference in braking distance in favor of the Daewoo lie, in our opinion, in the tires: the Gentra has KontiPremiumContact 2, the Logan has Amtel-Planet DC.
In terms of smoothness, the models are similar. They shake about the same on potholes. Well, Renault, maybe a little less. And this is an indisputable compliment to the Gentra, because the Logan has deservedly become the standard in terms of smoothing out road defects. Controllability? Both machines do not know what excitement is. Reliable and predictable, but nothing more. So it should be with people's sedans.
And in terms of acoustic comfort, the Daewoo takes the lead: it is noticeably quieter during acceleration and cruising 80 km / h. In response, the unbending "Logan" takes out a joker - standard engine protection and 155 mm of ground clearance. "Gentre" with its bare belly and 140 mm distance to the ground has nothing to cover here.
So, Gentra is an ambitious project. He tries not to give in to his opponent either in price or in quality. Daewoo attracts with rich equipment. The main advantages of Logan are high ground clearance and a spacious interior. They allowed Renault to get ahead of the opponent a little. But "Gentru" even in the database can be ordered with an "automatic", while the "automatic" "Logan" is only in the complete set. So, the prospects for a newcomer are very good!
OWNER'S OPINION
Denis KORESHKOV
"Daewoo Gentra" (mileage 3400 km)
Initially, I tried to find a more or less universal car: inexpensive, comfortable, suitable for both family needs and commuting. The purchased "Gentra" with a manual transmission in the configuration "Optimum Plus" basically justified these expectations. Although there are little things that could be eliminated. For example, there is nowhere to attach a gas tank cap, which has neither a holder nor a hanger.
Residents of big cities will probably prefer the version with automatic transmission, but I'm used to the "mechanics". In general, I will characterize the movement on the Gentra as measured: the engine is clearly designed for a calm driving style. But after running in, even in the city and in traffic jams, the sedan consumes 8.5–8.7 liters of gasoline per 100 km. The car is still new, and I have not encountered the service. I hope that I will not be disappointed in this matter.
A car enthusiast who has collected the necessary amount of money begins to think. Today we will consider the main advantages and disadvantages of two cars of the same class. Let's analyze their strengths and weaknesses and decide which car is better to buy Gentra or Logan?
The evolution of appearance
The predecessor of Gentra without a shadow of embarrassment can be called the well-known. A person who is not versed in cars may not notice any special differences, but they are clearly present. The appearance of the Gentra is different, but in profile they are very similar to each other. The updated grille, front bumper and hood shape are the main changes from the base model. The rear end remained virtually unchanged. Logan has an unchanged appearance since 2009, when it was restyled.
Conceptual differences in the interior design
When we get inside Daewoo, we feel that we were already here once. Feelings are familiar to people who have ridden the Lacetti. Unfamiliar only block multimedia system and the process of adjusting the seat. There was a setting for lumbar support. The oriental tradition of decoration and decor is manifested in the plastic on the front panel and the door, which is made to look like wood. not cramped, but not high enough for tall riders. Having moved to Logan, we immediately feel that the interior is somewhat higher than that of the opponent. Confirmation of this entry in the documents, which says that the interior is more than 5 centimeters higher than that of the Gentra. Seat to ceiling 101 cm. But there is no lumbar support. The steering wheel is adjustable only for the angle of inclination, and in an Uzbek car you can pull it towards you. Not very impressive is the decision of the French designers to place the adjustment joystick under the “handbrake”, and the glass electric keys on the center console.
Satisfactory quality of interior finishes and ergonomics make it possible to give both models a solid four. Who should give the championship in terms of internal equipment Daewoo Gentra or Renault Logan? Gentra has a slight advantage.
Backrest, trunk and passenger comfort in the rear seat
If we analyze the car taking into account the rear seat sofa, then it is worth noting that Gentra is characterized by the presence of space in the lower part, and Logan in the upper part, although the height from the seat cushion to the ceiling is the same. Another advantage of Daewoo is the ability to disassemble the back of the rear seat sofa for the transportation of oversized cargo. Owners of a French car will not be able to take advantage of this privilege, because there the back of the rear seat sofa is bolted. But the volume of the trunk is still higher in the "Frenchman". Parity has also been established here, each car has its own minor advantages and disadvantages, but none of the compared cars has obvious deviations or enchanting “gadgets”. It should be noted that for tall motorists, Logan will be more comfortable, having a better view to all this. Climate control in both models is standard and will not cause difficulties with adaptation to management.
| Car model: | Renault Logan 1.6MT | Daewoo Gentra 1.5 |
| Manufacturer country: | France (assembly Russia) | South Korea(Assembly Uzbekistan) |
| body type: | sedan | sedan |
| Number of places: | 5 | 5 |
| Number of doors: | 4 | 4 |
| Engine capacity, cu. cm: | 1598 | 1485 |
| Power, l. s./about. min.: | 102/5750 | 107/5800 |
| Maximum speed, km/h: | 180 | 180 |
| Acceleration to 100 km/h, s: | 10.5 (manual transmission) | 11.9 (manual transmission) |
| Type of drive: | front | front |
| Checkpoint: | 5 manual transmission / 6 automatic transmission | 5 manual transmission |
| Fuel type: | gasoline AI-92-95 | gasoline AI-95 |
| Consumption per 100 km: | city 9.4; track 5.8 | city 8.5; track 7 |
| Length, mm: | 4500 | 4515 |
| Width, mm: | 1742 | 1725 |
| Height, mm: | 1525 | 1445 |
| Clearance, mm: | 160 | 155 |
| Tire size: | 185/65 R15 | 185/55 R15 |
| Curb weight, kg: | 1075 | 1240 |
| Gross weight, kg: | 1600 | 1660 |
| Fuel tank capacity: | 50 | 60 |
The dynamic characteristics of both models are almost the same
Both models have almost the same sprint qualities. Up to a hundred kilometers accelerate in ten and a half seconds. These, of course, are not outstanding dynamic characteristics, but for a quick start from a traffic light and convenient overtaking on country roads, they are quite sufficient. in both models, they are efficient and reliable, which guarantees complete safety for the driver and passengers in extreme situations. But one significant difference is still present. The Logan has a hard time getting used to the clutch pedal and gearbox. You won’t be able to drive quickly and confidently right away, a certain period of adaptation is necessary, but Gentra does not have such problems.
Behavior on the road
Test drive Renault Logan car:
Cars are similar to each other in terms of smoothness. They're not perfect, because they shake a little on our "high quality" roads. In terms of handling, there are no complaints, because these are those that do not differ in outstanding technical characteristics. A huge advantage of the French sedan is the presence of regular engine protection and high ground clearance. If you buy a Daewoo Gentra or Renault Logan for trips to the country or country trips, Renault must be given the palm, because it has more trunk and ground clearance.
Test drive car Daewoo Gentra:
What can be said in conclusion of the comparative analysis? If a car enthusiast cannot decide what to buy a new Logan or Gentra, he needs to make decisions based on his individual views and wishes. Renault Logan has been taking pride of place in the domestic automotive market for a long time. There is no point in doubting its practicality, but the Daewoo Gentra appeared relatively recently and has not yet been able to gain a foothold in the primary vehicle market, although it is better equipped than Logan, and its basic equipment includes an automatic transmission, which Logan cannot boast of.
Let's look at the advantages and disadvantages of the two rivals. Let's try to determine the strengths and weaknesses of the opposing cars. Although we will immediately say that this is just a statement of well-known facts.
Deciding which of the cars is the most reliable, which one to buy, is the exclusive right of potential buyers.
Exterior
If we look at both cars in profile, they have a lot in common .. Gentra has only the front in the original form. The front bumper with grille looks good. There is nothing to note about the innovations in the "clothes" of "Logan". All the same "macintosh" reystaling 2009. The car can only boast of collectible disks "winter-summer 2013".
Interior
Comparing the interior of the cars, we note the very modest upholstery (materials) of the Daewoo. But a better build quality than the competitor. For equipment, the first place is given to Daewoo. In this component, Logan is clearly lagging behind.
Salon "Daewoo" in restrained colors. The front panel is decorated with plastic under "tree". Salon is spacious. Only tall passengers will not be comfortable. Not enough height. The competitor's interior is 55 mm higher. Salon of the French without unnecessary pathos and frills. Build quality. The front panel is assembled with a plus sign.
Seat adjustment for both "subjects" is almost at the same level. Well, maybe the seats of the Uzbek car are regulated a little longer. The Gentra's mirrors are better adjusted than the Renault's. The fact is that the Renault Logan mirror adjustment joystick is disguised on the central tunnel. As for the trunk. Here the forces are approximately equal. Competitors "laid" full-size spare wheels in the cargo compartment. Although Renault will have a slightly larger trunk.
Components and assemblies of a car
Sixteen-valve power unit "Logan" works better on the "low". More fun at medium speeds. Accelerating to 60 km / h, it wins 1.3 seconds from the Uzbeks. Having accelerated to 100 km / h, the gap is 2.1 seconds. It seems a trifle, but in urban conditions, Renault looks more solid.
Gentra bounced back in terms of speed. The maximum speed is increased by 9.1 km/h. brakes: Almost no difference. Daewoo has a slight advantage. Maybe the braking distance is shorter due to the installed tires "Conti Premium Contact 2"?
Driving performance cars are the same. Both cars "shake" on potholes and pits. Passengers of "Renault" feel a little less shaking. But in this issue we applaud "Gentre"! Why, you ask? How! The French have always been considered a model in terms of "smoothing" road surface defects! And here they are almost caught up. Both "subjects" do not differ in reactivity and agility. Auto reliable, predictable. Well, it's just not interesting! Maybe that's how it should be? Perhaps reliability is the main core of people's sedans?
So, "Daewoo Gentra" - do not hold ambitions! With all his might, he tries nothing to be inferior to a competing company: neither in price nor in quality. Daewoo attracts with decent equipment. What is positive about Logan? First of all: a spacious interior and ground clearance. It is these two indicators that allow you to get ahead of your competitor. Maybe not by much, but still!
Fans " Daewoo "They may object: after all, those who wish to purchase a car with automatic transmission can be in the basic configuration. That's a plus, they say. Indeed, the French are lagging behind here. After all, they have cars with automatic transmission in complete models. Summarizing, we can say that the prospects for Daewoo Gentra are very good.
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This is confirmed by the figures: And with a residence permit in Uzbekistan.
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It feels like the roof is noticeably higher here. The interior is not cramped, but the height is insufficient for tall drivers.
I moved from Renault Logan to Renault Duster because I like the quality of Renault and I want to drive all-wheel drive. Today we will consider the main advantages and disadvantages of two cars of the same class. Economical and simple engine, nice appearance and good interior.
It's just fun to feel how the pillow changes the angle of inclination, and not the usual move up and down. However, so was the predecessor.
Oh, there's also a lumbar support adjustment! In the maximum position, it turned out to be quite dense. Having adjusted the steering wheel hub not only for the angle of inclination, but also for the reach, I look around.
The salon does not press on the shoulders, but it is cramped in the head area - tall drivers often encounter this in cars with a sunroof. It feels like the roof is noticeably higher here. This is confirmed by the numbers: And for this I forgive the seat with practical fabric upholstery for a stool fit and the lack of a lumbar support.
I do not agree with the location of the horn button at the end of the steering column switch, the power window buttons on the center console, the mirror adjustment joystick on the floor tunnel. In winter, the engine warms up quickly and heats the interior in one fell swoop.
Excellent light at night, you can see the road perfectly. In short, a car for ordinary people, the language does not dare to call a jig, because it is much better than the good old jig, but the same simple and huge potential for creativity No cons, I did not find them.
So put it, it will be better than a penny Shumka from the cabin for a triple overpayment. I relate the same to music, and to fogs and rugs, you can buy all this yourself, it’s better and three to four times cheaper.
Do not compare this car with others, just take it or another car.
I am personally pleased that I chose him, I do not regret anything, not a single gram. There was not a single one. The updated grille, front bumper and hood shape are the main changes from the base model.
Daewoo Gentra 2013, 107 l. With. - observation
The rear end remained virtually unchanged. Logan has an unchanged appearance since the year when it was restyled. Renault Logan designers are more conservative in relation to the appearance of the car. Conceptual differences in the interior design. When we get inside the Daewoo, we feel that we were already here once.
"Our tests" Renault Logan vs Chevrolet Lanos vs BYD F3
Feelings are familiar to people who have ridden the Lacetti. Unfamiliar only block multimedia system and the process of adjusting the seat.
There was a setting for lumbar support.
Remember the joke about Togliatti - they say, a cursed place: whatever you collect, all Zhiguli turn out? Attention, drum roll: a new Renault Logan of Togliatti assembly is called to the asphalt of the Dmitrov test site! How much better is it than the previous Logan, which is still being made at Moscow Avtoframos? And for a side dish - two sedans at a similar price: Chevrolet Cobalt and Daewoo Gentra. Although who will be a vegetable side dish here, and who will be the main dish?
Heated windshield, climate control, multimedia system... Grab the keyed door handle, sit in the two-tone interior of the top version of Lux Privilege - and it seems that this is no longer Logan!
True, the smell in the cabin is the same, the door seals remained single, the ceiling of the interior lighting is still alone, the branded backlash of the driver's seat in the skid is lovingly preserved - fortunately, the back has become higher and now does not rest against the shoulder blades. The glove box is more spacious, there are a little more trays for small things. But you sit behind the wheel as before with strongly bent legs - there was no adjustment for reach.
The back is spacious, and the large trunk has become even larger! We measured the volumes with plastic balls - and if the old Logan included 544 "ball" liters, then the new one already has 601!
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Cobblestone is still Logan's weapon in the fight against competitors. But the previous generation sedan drove more smoothly over bumps.
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The power unit for both Logans is the same: the most powerful 16-valve 1.6 (102 hp) in the range and a five-speed “mechanics”. Idling speeds are walking, the pedals and the gear lever “itch” from vibrations ... But the new car has an “electronic” gas pedal not with a cable drive. Result? Imagine, in this sense, the old Logan is better - it is more responsive!
Apparently, the French did not get into the settings of the electronic accelerator. Not only is the response difficult to predict, but there was also a failure during acceleration from low revs - at first the engine seemed to choke, as if the accelerator pump had broken in the carburetor. And since the clutch pedal is still lightweight and uninformative, it is even more difficult to get under way on the new Logan than on the old one.
But overclocking, overclocking is better? After all, the new sedan has a transmission with a “shorter” main gear - 4.5:1 against 4.21:1. Theoretically, this should improve elasticity, that is, the ability to accelerate within one gear. We look at the results of our measurements - and ... M-yes. In fourth and fifth gears, the new Logan is slightly more elastic, but only for a fraction of a second. On the third, when accelerating from 60 to 100 km / h, there is no gain at all. And when starting from zero to a hundred, the new Logan gets as much as a second and a half slower than the old one: 13.5 s instead of 12.0 s. Well, up to 150 km / h, acceleration is completely extended by as much as 5.4 seconds.
