Last winter, the editorial Datsun filed. Even when it was not too cold outside, after a couple of days of parking, the mi-DO started hard. And in November, when a real winter set in Moscow, the battery failed. Five days of inactivity while I was on a business trip was enough for the car not to start. But it wasn't even ten degrees below zero outside! So, the native Akom battery lasted for a year and a half. This did not surprise me, because even in our recent (ЗР, 2016, No. 10) products of this company failed, frightened by low temperatures. As a result, I had to fork out for a new battery.
56 A Bosch battery . h cost five thousand rubles, but in January they fully paid off. After all, frosts have come, and new battery came in handy. Even when the thermometer was -33°C, the Datsun started up! With the previous battery, such a maneuver would definitely not work. It seemed like you could breathe easy. But the car threw new problems.
Shortly before the New Year, a transmission error appeared on the instrument panel. The machine itself immediately went into service mode. It was worth parking and transferring the selector to "parking", as the box was blocked. Just great! You have to go to the dealer, and on a tow truck. But the next morning everything was back to normal. No errors, the box works properly. Maybe overheating?
I canceled the evacuation at my own risk and decided to get to the dealer on my own. Apparently, the car, sensing a visit to the service, got scared and repaired itself, because there were no problems along the way. But once the box has switched to service mode, the diagnostics will definitely show something. It wasn't there! In DC Genser on Warsaw highway, where I took the car, they said that there were no errors. The box works fine, you can drive safely. Miracles, and nothing more. Since nothing was found, then the case is not guaranteed. So, please, pay for diagnostics.
A note of doubt remained. After all official dealer Datsun is not the first time "rolled" with a guarantee. Last time, another service station, Major at Novaya Riga, also did not find a burned-out washer pump. Although it abnormal work was audible to the naked ear.
Let's go back to ours. During cold weather, it really worked fine. But as soon as the thermometer rose to near zero, the problems returned. The transmission now and then throws errors, which then disappear into nowhere. Since there is no hope for dealers, we had to turn again to technical specialists Datsun. IN soon Let's try to find the causes of failures together. We will definitely tell you about the results.
Wherein technical filling cars are the same. Therefore, we have in fact a product of the Togliatti automobile plant, slightly seasoned with Japanese marketing sauce. But under it, as already mentioned, the same aggregate basis as that of Kalina. At the same time, a lot of things in the "Japanese" have been improved compared to their Russian counterparts. In addition to the transformed appearance and interior, many components, mechanisms and individual parts sedan and hatchback have undergone a thorough revision.
According to one of them technical representatives Datsun, more than 1000 elements of the car survived the refinement. Indeed, compared with the same and "Kalina" japanese sedan and the hatchback have become noticeably quieter on the go - their sound insulation is more effective, the engine is idling smoother and quieter, mechanical boxes partially got rid of the characteristic transmission “howl”, and the gears turn on more clearly and with less effort. In general, in Datsun on-DO and mi-Do you can feel the attention to detail compared to their Russian prototypes.
However, as the classics said, you can’t go far on the carriage of the past. After all, from machines that were developed more than 15 years ago, it is difficult to make a competitive modern car. All the flaws and shortcomings of their design invariably pop up in /mi-Do. So, for example, many owners are strained, like in domestic prototypes, by swinging open 90 degrees front doors. Not only can they be easily damaged by an obstacle in the immediate vicinity. And if it’s an expensive car parked nearby, then it’s even easier than ever to get money.
On the body is given factory warranty 6 years from . On the one hand, very good. On the other hand, some Datsun on-DO and mi-Do specimens may bloom with rusty spots after the first Russian winter. And not only the characteristic elements of the body, such as wheel arches and thresholds, and almost all the details - doors, hood, fenders and even the roof. Yes, yes, this sometimes happens, although it does not have the character of an epidemic. Often the trapezoid fails (1500 rubles), they do not work well and are fixed door locks, scratches quickly Windshield. Most likely, this is the fault of allies. But the consumer still has to deal with it.
Electrical failures also occur. Moreover, they intersect with similar problems on the "Grant" and "Kalina". It can zap the block, the electric motor of the “wipers” fails, or the lamps burn out at enviable intervals in lighting fixtures. By the way, one electrical incident also happened on the test Datsun on-DO. Didn't want to turn off the fog lights. Even when it was, the ignition was turned off, and the car was armed, the fog lights continued to shine. Switching the node on and off again did nothing.
I had to remove the negative terminal from the battery and wait until the morning, because it was already late in the evening. The next day, having dismantled the block for switching light modes, they put it back - they still continue to “burn”. In general, we decided to pull out the appropriate fuses, but before that we checked again - the headlights turned off by themselves. As the servicemen would say, a “walking” malfunction ... After that, I no longer used the foglights until I returned the car to the dealer.
As for the engines, on-DO gasoline 8-valve engines with a volume of 1.6 liters with a capacity of 82 and 87 liters were installed. with., as well as a 106-horsepower 16-valve. At the same time, mi-DO was content with only an 87-strong “four”. Eight-valve units are generally reliable. True, on some instances of Datsun increased consumption oils. May leak with age valve lid. However, it costs mere pennies - just install new gasket or put the cover on. The timing belt is prescribed to be changed every 75,000 km, but mechanics recommend thinking about updating it after 50,000 km. It is advisable to change the water pump (2,300 rubles) at the same time as timing belt- it usually fails after 100,000 km. The fact is that a leaking pump can jam and then cut off the teeth on the driven belt.
If such a malfunction happens with a 106-horsepower engine, then the valves will meet the pistons and overhaul engine is provided. This "four", by the way, is noticeably more capricious compared to the "eight-valve".
On all engines, spark plugs and ignition coils, oxygen sensors (1900 rubles each) and mass flow air (from 2800 rubles). Often the ECU engine control unit is buggy, because of which the engine suddenly stalls and refuses to start again. Over time, crankshaft seals begin to leak and camshaft- well, if the front. For replacement rear sensor crankshaft will have to remove the clutch.
By the way, the clutch assembly usually nurses up to 100,000 km. True, sometimes by 30,000 km it may be necessary to replace the clutch disc. Although it is better to update the whole mechanism with a basket and release bearing. In a five-speed, second gear synchronizers traditionally wear out. This sore was not only on the Grant and Kalina, but also on the VAZ cars of the tenth family. That's heredity. But repairing the box is inexpensive - from 12,000 rubles.
I bought my Datsun new in 2015. I needed a car due to the fact that I work in the suburbs and I need to drive 70 km every day. needed reliable car that won't let you down in the cold. Old car after 8 years of operation, it stopped starting ... Of all the economy class brands considered, Datsun had the best value for money. It seems like a semi-foreign car, created from three cars (Renault, Nissan and Vaz) and the price is about 150,000 cheaper than a foreign car in the same configuration with automatic transmission. Now let's analyze everything in detail:
Pros (other than price):
Suspension of medium hardness;
Automatic transmission taken from Nissan Tiida (just a rocket!);
Economical fuel consumption;
On-board computer.
Of the minuses:
VAZ engine with late ignition. The starter rotates, but does not catch, and moreover, this can happen in any weather, both in summer and in winter. You can just try to start the car 100 times, but it won’t start and that’s all (((. And it also happens that when you turn the ignition key, the car seems to choke and it doesn’t start either.
The car was equipped with a very cheap and low-quality battery, which soon boiled (((;
The light in the cabin stops burning in cold weather. At -15, it does not light up when the door is opened, but at more low temperatures You can't even turn it on with a button. That is, if at night you sit in cold car and if you don’t take a flashlight with you, you will start the car in the dark like a blind kitten.
The wipers are the same. Wipe badly in cold weather.
By service:
MOT at my run, I pass once every 8 months. The average cost is 7000r. I don’t know if it’s expensive or cheap for such a machine, but judging by the estimate, half of this amount goes to pay for the work itself. Several times the MOT took too long. Once I killed about 6 hours by sitting in the cabin ((I look at the cameras, and the car most often hangs on a lift, and one master walks and services several cars at once. That's why it takes a long time!
MOT took place more often in Nissan, because Datsun and Nissan have the same dealer in Yekaterinburg. I can't tell if this is a plus or a minus. - Just a fact!
I have contacted the dealer several times with my problem. She talked about the fact that the car would not start, and about the light bulb and some other shortcomings, and they always footballed me, such as the case is not guaranteed, and in general, if the computer does not give any error, then the car is working properly, etc. and so on. What about late ignition they said it was a factory setting and Datsuns are all like that. On the battery they generally say that there is no guarantee.
Once my check engine light came on and I asked during maintenance to diagnose and identify the cause. As a result, they found out that the rear brake light had burned out, and besides that, I had the temperature sensor removed (THIS IS WHEN IT WAS NOT INITIALLY INSTALLED IN THE CAR!!!). I tried to explain it to them, but they didn’t believe it, they said that this couldn’t be))), like I myself went somewhere to an unauthorized service, and someone mixed up the wires for me and removed the sensor. And we need to urgently deliver new sensor. In short, I bought a sensor from them, okay, it cost 250 rubles + 300 rubles to install. And the check caught fire simply because of a burnt out brake light, that's all!
In short, I realized that it makes no sense to go to the Dealer for maintenance, kill a lot of time and overpay, because you still won’t get anything from them under the guarantee, only then they will make you pay for diagnostics.
As for the engine not grasping, my friend recommended that I press the gas pedal when I twist the starter. Seems to help so far!
In general, I can hardly recommend this car, because. in my opinion, the engine is the most significant part of the car, and if it fails like that and it delivers a bunch of unpleasant emotions, then the whole impression of the car deteriorates. Why do you need a car that won't start? Even if he has good suspension and gearbox? The next will take only a foreign car!
