Camry automatic mechanic which is more reliable. Owner reviews, car reviews

13.07.2023

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The sixth-generation used Camry in the V40 body is in stable demand: solid, moderately comfortable, structurally simple and reliable. The latter is confirmed in car services. For this, the Camry is hated there. Mechanics shrug their shoulders - as a rule, the owners come only for regular maintenance. However, this does not mean that you can take the first car that comes across with your eyes closed.

"Six" or "four"?

The sixth generation Camry was sold from 2006 to 2011. Restyling of 2009, although it was cosmetic, but some design flaws in Toyota eliminated. And since March 2008, dealers began to receive cars exclusively from a plant near St. Petersburg. By the way, the production established in Russia did not affect the quality.

Unlike Japan or the USA, we can mainly find two versions: with a 2.4-liter engine (167 hp) and a 3.5-liter (277 hp). Although there is still a hybrid on the market, it is from the exotic category. Officially, such "Camry" was not supplied.

2006

2009

Both motors are with aluminum cylinder blocks. The units are reputed to be reliable, but their overhaul, as a rule, is not carried out in services. On average, engines with normal maintenance last from 350 to 500 thousand kilometers. In both cases, the timing drive has a chain that usually does not bother with extraneous sounds up to 200-250 thousand. So when choosing a car with solid mileage, you should listen to the operation of the motor. After all, spare parts alone for replacing the timing chain (including tensioners, guides, trims, etc.) will cost about 25 thousand rubles. Plus, work for another 10,000. For clarity, we take average prices in specialized technical centers in Moscow - in a semi-underground garage, of course, it will turn out cheaper, from official dealers - more expensive.

Versions with a 2.4 liter engine are more popular. There are about twice as many of them in the secondary market, also due to the heavy tax burden on the V6. The low demand for a top-end engine is also due to the fact that the "fortieth" "Camry" with its wadded brakes, uninformative steering wheel and super-soft suspension does not really need a powerful atmospheric "six". Plus, it's greedy. And the younger motor is enough for a comfortable ride.

Some owners of pre-styling cars with V6 came to the service in connection with quick oil drain. The rubber connecting tube of the oil line is to blame. For someone, it burst even before 50 thousand mileage. The emergency pressure light came on with all the consequences in the literal and figurative sense of the word. If you come across a pre-styling car with factory tubes, it is better to replace them with completely metal ones. The price of the issue together with the work is 7-9 thousand rubles.

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According to the American IIHS and NHTSA crash test methods, the Camry showed excellent results.

A weak point can also be called individual ignition coils, which can burn out already by 100 thousand. If they sentenced one, it is still better to change everything at once. Although the procedure is not cheap - from 20 to 42 thousand rubles for a complete set (depending on the manufacturer).

Also, on powerful Camrys, at every second MOT, it is advisable to flush the nozzles, otherwise failures appear during acceleration, and fuel consumption increases. Sometimes trouble happens from the field of "acoustics" - when starting the engine, there is a slight rattle. The problem can be solved by replacing the clutches of the VVT-i variable valve timing system, or it may not be solved. The work is time-consuming and expensive, so in the absence of other symptoms, mechanics recommend it only to the paranoid. But when the dynamics worsened, the engine began to work unstably and oil consumption increased greatly, you still have to spend money. Replacement with spare parts will cost about 50 thousand rubles. Especially early - even before 100 thousand mileage - those who, in order to save money, fill in semi-synthetics, come to the service with a problem.

The younger motor 2.4 has its own unpleasant features. So, it is subject to thermal shock. Even a short overheating will cause the aluminum cylinder head, as they say, to "get up a house." Therefore, the temperature and level of antifreeze must be monitored. And it's not just reinsurance. The engine is characterized by smudges of the cooling system pump - it was changed under warranty. Work on average costs 3,000 rubles, and the water pump itself costs from 3,000 to 9,000 rubles. To protect yourself from overheating, it is also recommended to clean the radiator more often. The fan starts to work, practically without stopping? So it's time. If the radiator itself ordered to live for a long time, the replacement will cost a pretty penny. Prices range from 8,000 to 24,000 rubles.

Like the “big brother”, on 2.4 liter engines with runs under 100 thousand, the problem of oil consumption may arise - from one to two liters per 10 thousand. But for other reasons. By this time, the piston rings are usually coked. Their replacement, together with valve stem seals, costs about 30,000 rubles. By this time it is usually time to change the engine mounts. The part costs at least 4,000 rubles, the original is exactly twice as expensive.

Of the common faults, we note the short life of oxygen sensors (6000-10000 rubles). Sometimes the owners of both modifications of the Camry complain about problems with starting the engine. There may be several reasons. The first is the fuel system pressure regulator, which ordered to live for a long time, costing an average of 7,500 rubles. It happens that the engine does not start at all, the fuel pump does not turn on and at the same time the computer does not give any errors. The reason for this is the water that gets under the fuse box due to design features. To prevent trouble, it is better to treat the wires with a water-repellent lubricant.

Not for sports

Three gearboxes were installed on the fortieth Camry. Five-speed mechanics relies only on the 2.4 engine. For quite a long time, it does not remind of itself, but after 60 thousand kilometers, drivers sometimes begin to have difficulty shifting gears. An alarm bell indicates the need to change the clutch disc (7000-11000 rubles).

Five-speed automatics don't usually have major problems, and a six-speed automatic that only pairs with a V6 can turn up some surprises. On average, her the resource is approximately 150,000 km. To prolong life, mechanics advise more often - preferably once every 50 thousand - to change the oil with a filter, and fill in only the original (ATF-WS). The main drawback is that the machine is not designed for such a herd of "horses" under the hood. And if you are used to driving, as they say, “slippers on the floor”, then the happy story of your Camry at first will surely end in an expensive repair. "Racing" leads to rapid wear of the clutches, overheating of the oil ... When overhauling mechanics, they almost always sentence the torque converter. Restoration will cost at best 80 thousand rubles, and most likely more than a hundred.

The design of the suspension as a whole does not cause headaches, but work “on the little things” after 50 thousand runs, as a rule, is enough. Most often you have to change the bushings and stabilizer struts - 500 and 2500 rubles. The most expensive parts, including shock absorbers, usually live for a long time - up to 150-200 thousand km. However, there are nuances in the suspension design that should be taken into account when diagnosing the selected machine. To replace the lower arm of the front suspension, you need to hang out the engine - as a result, after a seemingly ordinary procedure, the wallet will empty by 17-22 thousand rubles. By the way, if you prefer exclusively original spare parts, you should know that levers are sold only as an assembly for an average of 7,000 rubles.

Finally, when turning the steering wheel, it is worth straining your hearing. A clearly perceptible knock indicates a malfunction of the steering shaft. Some managed to change it under warranty even at a run of 70-80 thousand. Latecomers will have to pay about 10 thousand rubles for work along with the shaft itself. But a new non-original cross at the price of 1000 rubles can save. Still sometimes the power steering starts to howl - it's time to see if there are fluid leaks. In most cases, at the end of the first "hundredth" it is necessary to change high-pressure hoses or seals. And this is another 5000-6000 rubles.

By the way, the owners of American-made Camry faced a very unpleasant effect of "sticking" the gas pedal. Toyota on this occasion arranged a review twice - it changed the mats and the pedal itself, which can now be bought for 7000-10000 rubles.

Internal discomfort

The weak point of the Camry is the paintwork. Thin layer scratches easily and after numerous washes, the body does not look so attractive anymore. But traces of rust are not visible even on ten-year-old specimens.

Quite unexpected, but often occurring problems with air conditioning and climate control can spoil the comfort in the cabin. It is advisable to clean the system once a year. And the most common trouble is an oxidizing air conditioner evaporator. "Ashes" on the front panel of some "Camry" settled after 30,000-40,000 km. Dealers recognized the case as a warranty. If the first owner did not change the part and preferred to simply wipe the foreign “deposits”, then you will have to pay about 15,000 rubles.

But most of all, Camry drivers in the cabin are annoyed by crickets, especially in cold weather. It seems that they are everywhere - on the panel, the rear seats, in the hatch ...

And, of course, not at all cheap dirty tricks, as in any car, an electrician sometimes arranges. For example, in pre-styling versions, the power window unit at the cost of 20,000 rubles may suddenly fail. And for standard xenon headlights, ignition blocks often burn out by 80-100 thousand - about 25,000 rubles.

Volkswagen Passat will not be of the past, but of the generation before last.

The second generation Skoda Superb looks financially attractive in this company. In the corridor from half a million to a million fit all pre-styling cars until 2013 of release. However, from this list, the Czech brand liftback is the most illiquid. And finally, the most affordable option is the fourth Ford Mondeo. You can become its owner for 330 thousand, and for 950 there is a real opportunity to get a fresh car in 2014.

We express our gratitude to the technical center "Master-Motors" for their help in preparing the material.

"Mechanics" is one of the most reliable types of transmission, recognized by many pragmatic car enthusiasts and professional drivers with many years of experience.

In this article, we will analyze which versions of Toyota Camry 40 cars were equipped with a manual transmission. Let's consider what malfunctions and typical "sores" are found in mechanical gearboxes on the Camry 40, we will find out in what situations it is advisable to repair the mechanics, and in which it is better to make a complete replacement of the gearbox with a new one.

Checkpoint on Camry 40

Not all Toyota Camry 40 car models are equipped with a manual transmission. At the moment, on the Camry of the fortieth version, produced in the territory of the Russian Federation, the mechanics are installed only on the Comfort (or R1) configuration model - with a 2.4 engine.

If we talk about Camry 40, produced outside the Russian Federation, then cars with "mechanics" can be found quite a lot. Versions of cars intended for the domestic market of Japan were equipped with mechanical transmissions, even more rarely cars "on the handle" were found for export to the markets of America and Canada.

So, the "mechanics" was installed on cars coming with the following units:

Toyota Camry 40 with 2.0 engine (Hybrid);
Toyota Camry 40 with 2.4 engine (Hybrid);
Camry 40 with 2.0 engine - 1AZ-FE;
Camry 40 with 2.4 engine - 2AZ-FE.

Characteristics of the manual transmission installed on the Camry 40

The mechanical transmission on the Camry is presented in the form of a 5-speed unit, called the E351. This box was installed on cars from 2006 to 2011. As for the rest of the characteristics of this transmission, they are as follows:

the volume of oil for refueling in the gearbox units - 2.5 liters;
the weight of the transmission itself is approximately 45 kg (excluding the flywheel, flywheel parts and filling fluid);
the viscosity grade of the oil used is SAE 75W-90.

IMPORTANT! Under the conditions that the car is operated in cold regions, it is allowed to use oil with a lower viscosity, while operating the vehicle, on the contrary, in hot regions, it is allowed to fill in oil with a higher viscosity, adaptive to temperature conditions.

Indicators of dynamics and acceleration Camry 40 with manual transmission

If we talk about the dynamics of a car with a manual transmission installed, then there is plenty of it. Camry "on the handle" accelerates much more vigorously, in contrast to the typical machine usually installed on the Camry. A mechanical transmission allows the driver to freely operate the traction characteristics of the machine and use the full potential of the motor when driving.

For Camry 40, with the following engines, the dynamics indicators are corresponding:

for an internal combustion engine with a volume of 2.0 liters of dynamics (from 0 to 100 km / h) on a manual transmission is approximately 10 seconds, depending on the condition of the vehicle's units and the degree of adhesion of the car's wheels to the road, the indicators may vary (by about 0.5 seconds);
for an internal combustion engine with a volume of 2.4 liters of dynamics (from 0 to 100 km / h) on a manual transmission is approximately 8.7 seconds, depending on the condition of the vehicle's units and the degree of adhesion of the car's wheels to the road, the indicators may vary (by about 0.5 seconds).

If we compare these figures with the version of the car on the machine, then the advantage remains with the car with a manual transmission. Dynamic indicators are 2.5 - 3.5 seconds in favor of the "handle". The automatic machine, on the other hand, loses the race for dynamics, but has other advantages, such as comfort - after all, a driver who owns a car with automatic transmission no longer needs to constantly shift gears and squeeze the clutch in traffic jams and at traffic lights.

Consumption figures again show the advantage of a manual transmission over an automatic transmission. For Camry 40 with the following internal combustion engines, fuel consumption indicators are:

engine 2.0 (145 hp) in manual transmission, consumes ~ 7.8 - 8.1 liters of fuel per 100 km in a combined cycle, against an automatic transmission with its 9 liters of fuel per 100 km in a combined cycle;
the 2.4 engine on a manual transmission consumes ~ 8.3l - 8.8l of fuel per 100km in the combined cycle, against a car with automatic transmission with its fuel consumption of almost 10 liters (9.7 - 9.9l) per 100km in the combined cycle.

Maintenance and typical mechanical sores on the Camry 40

With the maintenance and reliability of the mechanical transmission on the Camry 40, not everything is so simple. This is due to the not so high prevalence of cars "on the handle". There are certain problems with this - ranging from the inaccessibility of spare parts for gearboxes and a certain complexity in maintenance, ending with the rather high cost (compared to other manual transmissions for different cars) of acquiring a new or contract transmission.

As for the typical malfunctions of mechanics, they include the following "sores":

bearing wear - may appear on a run of more than 60,000t.km;
abrasion and breakage of cables leading to the checkpoint (especially on pre-styling models - it can occur on a run of over 70,000 - 80,000t.km;
rapid wear of the backstage bushings - depends on the specific user and the quality of these same bushings, but in general, their life span is 40,000 - 60,000 t.km;
the problem with the “non-disengagement” of the first gear is a fairly common sore that occurs on a run from 80,000 to 120,000 tons. km, depending on the use, the solution is to replace the gear shift synchronizers;
Another, less common problem is the noise of the main pair, this problem can occur at different mileage of the car.

In general, the mechanical transmission on the Camry 40 cannot be called very reliable and uncompromising. The mechanics go their due dates with proper operation of the car, typical sores are solved with “little blood” and do not require serious investments from the owner. But if, nevertheless, the manual transmission is out of order, then it is necessary to prepare a tidy sum for the purchase of a new or contract gearbox.

And often, when purchasing a contract unit, you will have to spend some time waiting for the delivery of a spare part, since there are not so many of these spare parts on the territory of the Russian Federation and they are not in great demand. The cost of acquiring a new manual transmission will be comparable to the cost of a new or contract automatic gearbox, there are no special savings or overpayments in this case.

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The maximum amount of benefit under the proposal for maintenance in the own service center "MAS MOTORS" is 50,000 rubles when buying a new car.

These funds are provided in the form of a bonus amount linked to the client's loyalty card. These funds cannot be cashed or exchanged in any other way for a cash equivalent.

Bonuses can only be spent on:

Purchase of spare parts, accessories and additional equipment in the salon "MAS MOTORS";
Discount when paying for maintenance at the MAS MOTORS car dealership.

Withdrawal restrictions:

For each scheduled (regular) maintenance, the discount cannot exceed 1000 rubles.
For each unscheduled (irregular) maintenance - no more than 2000 rubles.
For the purchase of additional equipment - no more than 30% of the purchase amount of additional equipment.

The basis for providing a discount is a customer loyalty card issued in our salon. The card is not named.

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The action of the promotion applies only to procedures for the purchase of new cars.

The maximum benefit is 60,000 rubles if:

the old car is accepted under the Trade-In program and its age does not exceed 3 years;

the old car was handed over under the terms of the state recycling program, the age of the handed over vehicle in this case is not important.

The benefit is provided in the form of a reduction in the sale price of the car at the time of purchase.

It can be combined with the benefits of the programs "Credit or installment plan 0%" and "Travel compensation".

You cannot use the recycling program discount and Trade-In at the same time.

The vehicle may belong to your close relative. The latter may be considered: siblings, parents, children or spouses. Family ties will need to be documented.

Other features of participation in the promotion are listed below.

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The final amount of the benefit can only be determined after evaluating the car accepted under the Trade-In program.

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You can take part in the promotion only after providing:

official certificate of state-approved disposal,
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The scrapped car must have been owned by the applicant or his close relative for at least 1 year.

Only certificates of disposal issued after 01/01/2015 are considered.

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The final amount of the maximum benefit received when buying a vehicle under special programs at the MAS MOTORS car dealership can be used as a payment for installation of additional equipment at the car dealership service center or as a discount on the car relative to its base price - at the discretion of the car dealership.

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The maximum benefit amount will be 40,000 rubles if the client pays in cash at the cash desk of the MAS MOTORS car dealership on the day the purchase and sale agreement is concluded.

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The promotion is limited to the number of cars available for purchase and automatically ends when the balance is exhausted.

Automobile dealership "MAS MOTORS" reserves the right to refuse the participant of the promotion to receive a discount if the individual actions of the participant do not comply with the rules of the promotion given here.

The MAS MOTORS car dealership reserves the right to change the terms and conditions of this promotion, as well as the range and number of promotional cars, including suspending the promotion period by amending the promotion rules presented here.

State programs

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The discount is provided only when buying new cars with the attraction of credit funds from partner banks.

The Bank reserves the right to refuse to issue a loan without explanation.

A car loan is provided by partner banks of the MAS MOTORS salon, indicated on the page

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The maximum benefit under state programs for subsidizing car loans is 10%, provided that the cost of the car does not exceed the established threshold for the selected loan program.

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The discount is provided by a personal manager or head of a car dealership. The promotion applies to new vehicles only.

The offer is valid only for promotional vehicles. The current list and sizes of discounts can be clarified on this website or from car dealership managers. The discount is provided in the form of a reduction in the selling price of the car at the time of purchase.

The number of goods is limited. The promotion will automatically end when the available number of promotional vehicles is exhausted.

Promotion "Travel Compensation"

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The maximum benefit under the program can be 10,000 rubles. The actual amount will be determined based on the costs confirmed by the client.

Evidence can be considered:

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The administration of the car dealership reserves the right to refuse to provide benefits without giving reasons.

Benefits can be combined with benefits under the 0% Credit or Installment and Trade-In or Recycling programs.

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The Japanese sedan Toyota Camry in Russia is the undisputed leader in its segment, the advantages of which are a solid appearance, a spacious interior, a comfortable suspension, a recognizable brand and, most importantly, reliability, which is a cut above that of German models. The only thing the Camry is inferior to the German models is in the design and quality of the interior materials used. While the interior of the current version isn't quite as bad as the XV40 generation, it's more restrained and thoughtful now.

Today, Toyota Camry is sold in Russia equipped with a choice of three atmospheric gasoline engines:

gasoline 2.0 liter with a capacity of 150 hp;
gasoline 2.5 liter with a capacity of 181 hp;
gasoline 3.5 liter with a capacity of 249 hp

Of the three engines available, we would recommend the 2.5 liter. it is the golden mean between power and fuel consumption. According to engineers, he consumes 11 liters in the urban cycle and 7.8 liters on the highway. As for the base motor, the power of 150 hp. frankly, too little for a car weighing 1530 kg. The top-end motor is ideal for driving on the highway, its power is enough for overtaking with a margin. But the engine also has its drawbacks, the main ones being fuel consumption and the fact that the gearbox sometimes cannot cope with the 346 Nm of torque.

The Toyota Camry of the XV55 generation is equipped, regardless of the engine, with an exclusively six-speed automatic transmission. The transmission has an Aisin U760E index, which is found on front-wheel drive Rav4, Avensis, Sienna, Lexus ES 350, including Camry.

It is noteworthy that the U760E transmission is an upgraded version of the U660E automatic transmission with a different firmware.

Many motorists before buying a Camry are wondering does the machine on version 3.5 differ from 2.5?

The answer is no, both on all three versions (2.0, 2.5 and 3.5) have the same automatic transmission, so often the box for the 249 strong version fails on a run of 100,000 km for those who like to press “sneakers on the floor” from a traffic light. In defense, we can say that on 2.0 and 2.5 liter power units, the transmission easily overcomes the mark of 250,000 km without serious breakdowns, so the Camry U760E automatic machine can be considered reliable.

Price in Russia

The ruble price tag for the Camry VX55 in 2018, depending on the configuration, is:

2.0 liter petrol engine with 150 hp in the Standard configuration 1,407,000 rubles;
2.0 liter petrol engine with 150 hp in the configuration Standard Plus 1,460,000 rubles;
2.0 liter petrol engine with 150 hp in the Classic configuration 1,536,000 rubles;
2.5 liter petrol engine with 181 hp in Comfort configuration 1,557,000 rubles;
2.5 liter petrol engine with 181 hp in the Elegance configuration 1,640,000 rubles;
2.5 liter petrol engine with 181 hp in the configuration Elegance Plus 1,681,000 rubles;
2.5 liter petrol engine with 181 hp in the Exclusive configuration 1,715,000 rubles;
2.5 liter petrol engine with 181 hp in the Prestige configuration 1,787,000 rubles:
3.5 liter petrol engine with 249 hp in the Luxe configuration 2,003,000 rubles.

Toyota's main competition in this segment is.

Review

I still can’t understand what prompted me to write this review, maybe just a desire to speak out, or maybe help someone decide.
So, what do we have, or rather, how it got to us.
Returning a little to the past, we have a standard set of experience in operating cars until today, naturally consisting of VAZs, naturally they were needed only to fill bumps while driving, thus gaining experience driving, then Renault Logan, their there were already 2 pieces, Mazda 3 with a 1.6-liter engine, and, ultimately, a Toyota Camry in the back of a V40.
Camry will only be compared with the Mazda 3 (previous body) So Departure for "Matryoshka" 1.5 years, bringing it to those. state to almost perfect, and by the way, while not knowing grief at all, no matter how in terms of those. service, and in terms of its reliability, I decided to change cars. One fine day, while drinking morning coffee in the office, at the same time looking at ads on cars. ru, got the idea to change the car, because. at the same time, I realized that the Mazda was just tired, the pleasant emotions of operation were gone. Somehow, the type of position also imposed the opinion that the car was still for a student, but I already sort of graduated from the institute, and it became somehow small, and my colleagues at work are already all polls in a car a class higher ... In In general, a complex of stereotypes played and I decided to put the matryoshka up for sale.
Then came the agony of choice, there was anything, I was almost ready to take the Honda Accord exclusively 2.4 liters., Again in the previous body, but then I decided to ask my friend for an opinion on Honda, so to speak, to confirm the correctness of the choice, and here the denouement is coming ... a friend suggests that I buy a Kamryuha in the back of a V40.
To be honest, I didn’t even think about considering such an option, the price made me pleasantly lick my lips, BUT the equipment ... hmmmm .... 2.4 l. Manual transmission !!!, velor interior !!!, mileage 145 thousand !!! generally took a couple of days to think. In the process of making a purchase decision, a friend guaranteed me that I would not lose with the choice, with all the ensuing "snot" of the joy of ownership, that the previous owner was his colleague from work, that he had the entire service history, in full view, at the same time as this is guaranteed not a bit, not painted. In general, stingy and decided to take.
I saw her live only on the day of registration, omitting the rest of the details associated with this, so I did the diagnostics with the previous owner while talking on the phone, outwardly and really without flaws in the body, with the exception of chips on the hood and bumper, well, and so she immediately fell in love with me for her appearance.
As a result, we have: the words of the previous owner "almost perfect technical condition!
First impressions of the trip and a slight disappointment: it became clear that something needed to be changed in the suspension, because. rattling on the bumps became distinctly audible. The salon is wretched to say the least, the combination of an incomprehensible dark gray-brown-violet color of the seat trim with door cards, coupled with the aluminum color of the central part of the torpedo with blue radio backlight, and LIGHT BROWN inserts in the doors and the center console under the gear knob just killed me on the spot. Fire this designer. The dynamics of the car compared to the Mazda, of course, day and night! Still 2.4 liters against 1.6 liters. gives a pleasant feeling of safety when overtaking, but still did not get a noticeable acceleration. Either the car itself is heavy and the engine is rather weak for it, or there are problems with the engine.
Now for the good stuff:
A hefty interior, the son and wife feel extremely free, a comfortable driving position, with my height of 176 and weight of 94 kg, I settled down almost immediately, setting the chair for myself. It turned out that he lowered it to the very bottom. Lowered the steering wheel to the same position. To justify driving, I went from St. Petersburg to Cherepovets back and forth in 1 sitting - something about 800 km., When I got out from behind the wheel, it felt like I could drive the same amount.
In principle, the acoustic comfort in the cabin suits me perfectly. It is not necessary to strain the vocal cords even at a speed of over 200. If you find fault in this regard, then of course the wheel arches have a bad noise, because. noise from the tires is quite clearly audible in the cabin. Velor to the touch of course pleasant, BUT damn equipment without popogreyki is certainly blasphemy. In general, very comfortable!
Dynamics, here I have conflicting feelings. This car has been in my possession for almost a year, so during this time I have already felt the car well, sometimes you are even surprised at its frisky acceleration. BUT it either drives or doesn’t drive, that’s what it’s connected with, I haven’t figured it out, maybe the car behaves like a person with his characteristic mood swings ... If the engine is constantly kept in the range of 3-4500 rpm, then the speed satisfied quickly recruited.
The average speed range on the highway with which I move every day is 140-180 km / h, as described above, the noise does not bother my ears, it behaves quite steadily in the lane. As they say, what Russian does not like to drive fast, but you have to pay for fast driving with oil consumption and increased gasoline consumption.
The average consumption of gasoline, provided 18 km city with traffic jams, 30 km highway - 10 liters !!! If you operate the car only in urban mode, then the consumption will be kept at the level of - 12l. With a fairly measured driving on the highway, in particular, this was shown by a trip to Cherepovets, the consumption fell to indecent 7.1 liters. The speed only exceeded 130 km / h a few times, with an average range of 110-120
But fir-trees sticks, what a simple suspension she has ... When I drove a Mazda, I got a pleasure from taxiing, after all the replaced levers and shocks with springs. She was excellent on the road! With the Camry, of course, in this regard, it’s a disaster, expressed in decent rolls in corners, although there are no swaying during rectilinear movement. In general, the suspension itself is comfortable and elastic.
The result was a very pleasant looking car, with an ugly interior and sometimes slurred dynamics.
Expenses:
Going back, the car was bought without diagnostics, so there were audible tapping in the suspension. As a result, it resulted in the stabilizer bushings. Because the mileage is already considerable - 145 sput immediately changed additional shock absorbers and, just in case, stabilizer struts. As a result, a pleasant silence when it hits bumps.
Amorths - 2500r per piece. Racks stab. - 1200 pcs Bushings stab. - 300r Work with the collapse - I do not remember. At the same time, the front pads - 2500r. I don't remember the cost...
Then there was a problem with the brakes, 3/4 of the pedal stroke the car did not slow down at all, only at the very bottom. As a result, there were jammed rear pads on the guides and, as a result, overheated discs.
Discs (non-original) - 1900, Pads (non-original TRV) - 1500, a set of r / c calipers, new guides and handbrake pads (non-original) - 1500 rubles. Rear brakes with all caliper bulkheads and other procedures changed within 7 hours. Work - 9000r
After a while I am in the front right. the wing is being rebuilt bus. Bumper and fender for repair and painting. And since I already had the idea in my head to paint my face from chips, then this accident was a joy to me, so to speak, an impetus to action. Work with all materials - 28000r.
After some time, there was a slight tapping sound from the left side at idle, when the clutch is disengaged. As a result, I changed the clutch assembly, bearing, fork, basket, disc and bolts - 7500r, work - 9000r.
After the winter, diagnostics revealed broken silents in the fist on the right side, in the rear suspension, and like the noise of the front mortars. bearings. In general, I ordered all levers - 1800rx2 and 1800rx2, except for adjustable ones, rubber bands in a fist - 300rx4 each, so we are getting ready to go to the service next weekend. Well, just in case, wheel bearings - 1200r pieces, yet there is no rumble from the wheels at speed, if I change something later.
Oil change, every 7500 km - at first Pots 5v30 - the price is a trade secret. recently switched to Total 5v40
There is, of course, one more painful nuance - zhor oil. Consumption 1.5l per 7500km. The 2AZ-FE engine, judging by the thematic forum, has such a property - to EAT oil (the same to me, damn it), for someone to a greater extent, and for someone to a lesser extent, well, or not at all. At first, I thought that everything was connected with Castrol oil, they say it’s very fading. As a result, having switched to Total 5v40, the situation has not changed a single gram. Diagnostics showed 13.5-14.0 in each cylinder.
So there is only one problem left to solve - oil consumption.
Today, the mileage is already - 180,000 km So, I’m satisfied with the car, only the problem described above upsets me, which I still haven’t solved ... By the way, I’m already used to the interior and the inserts of a diarrhea color do not strain the tree.
In general, I wrote as best I could ... I tried to observe spelling and punctuation errors to the maximum. Something else will appear, then I will add, well, just ask. I'll post a photo a little later, the main thing is that I decided to write a review.