Golf 6 1.6 mechanics problems. Why not all VW Golf VI gasoline engines are equally successful, and it is better for "robots" to prefer "mechanics"

Golf 6 1.6 mechanics problems. Why not all VW Golf VI gasoline engines are equally successful, and it is better for "robots" to prefer "mechanics"

The modern average Russian person does not actively look towards car dealerships. Salaries at enterprises are growing too slowly, not keeping up with the prices and expenses of a modern family. Therefore, more and more motorists are forced to change their very old cars to not so old ones. At the same time, there is no need to pay a lot of money, since you can sell your car at a bargain price and find a completely acceptable offer on the secondary market. You can simply arrange for a key-to-key replacement of a car or with a small surcharge, gradually changing your car to more acceptable equipment options. Everyone has their own strategy for improving travel conditions. Today we will talk about how to choose and buy a Volkswagen Golf 6 generation in the secondary market. This car sold quite well in Russia, the start of its sales came at the time of the heyday of the economy, so many could afford a new VW.

Today, in the secondary market, respectively, there are many offers for the sale of a car. There are both simple and inexpensive configurations, as well as quite acceptable equipment options. But with the technique, 6 Golf has many issues that are worth remembering. The car is not as simple as the Golf V, which was one of the most reliable cars in the history of the concern (at least in the C-class). By the way, to this day the car looks very good, many cheaper brands have not yet caught up with VAG in terms of design quality. Over time, the car looks better and continues to serve its owners well. But to get real pleasure from operating the machine, you should choose the right one. Selection is of the utmost importance. Today we will deal with the main aspects of buying a used VW Golf of this generation and tell you a little about the car itself.

Is it worth it to buy Golf at all - what are the advantages?

Auto 6 generation was produced from 2009 to 2013. This is the time before the crisis, when the Russians could afford to buy a foreign car for 22-25 thousand dollars and pay off the loan in a couple of years. Today, Golf is not sold in Russia at all, and its main competitors are no cheaper than $22,000. in salons. At least if we are talking about good equipment. However, even a used German outperforms its rivals in many ways. Here are some highlights of Generation 6:

  • the machine has been completely redesigned, it does not at all resemble its predecessor in any of its aspects, especially differing in terms of the feel of operation;
  • the sporty youth style fits well into the structure and image of the brand, the car evokes only positive impressions from operation, the build quality is simply excellent;
  • all the details are in place, the seats are beautifully tailored, the support in the front seats is unobtrusive, but it does its job very well, everything is at hand, it’s easy to drive the car;
  • management is closer to sports, there are versions of GTI and R for real sports fans, in sports options, not only characteristics have been changed, but also important details of appearance;
  • the car is comfortable, despite its apparent rigidity, it is pleasant to drive in the Golf even on a not very high-quality road, there is no unnecessary shaking, there is no feeling of fatigue on the road.

These are the features that await you if you choose a decent Golf option with not the highest mileage. It should be noted that this is no longer the Volkswagen, when buying which you do not need to pay any attention to the mileage at all. Here you should carefully look at the car, determine its possible weaknesses, since repairs will cost an obscene lot of money. Therefore, let's proceed to the analysis of the main details of the purchase of such a car.

VW Golf VI modifications - which ones are better to choose used?

Many buyers who are not familiar with the latest news from Volkswagen are sure that engines and gearboxes do not need to be checked at all when buying a car. This has not been relevant for a long time. Those engines that served 500,000 km without repair and had indestructible attachments remained in the past. In the case of the sixth generation Golf, there can be a lot of questions to the technique. Pay attention to such features of the car in the secondary market:

  • the most popular engines are aspirated 1.6 for 102 horsepower and 1.4 TSI for 122 horses, engines with a turbine begin to give problems already at 100,000 km, so aspirated is better;
  • gearboxes on a 1.6 engine - traditional mechanics or automatic, on turbocharged units they installed mechanics or a DSG robot, which is worth buying carefully;
  • the biggest problems in technology arise with TSI turbines and DSG robots, especially on cars manufactured in 2009-2010, after which VW finalized the units;
  • occasionally come across units of 1.4 liters for 80 forces - the weakest atmospheric engines, there are no special problems with them, but you will not get pleasure from operation either;
  • diesel engines are extremely rare, in this generation diesel engines were not officially sold in Russia, so the proposed options are imported cars from Europe.

Cars brought from another country most often have problems with documents and are not very pleased with the quality (it could be a designer or a car after a serious accident, flooding). So diesels are recommended to simply let out of sight. The best solution for a car is a 1.6 102 horsepower gasoline engine with a manual 5-speed gearbox. This is the simplest kit and will last a long time with normal maintenance. More modern modifications can be problematic.

Options, prices and secrets of buying second-hand Golf

As for the complete sets, only one piece of advice can be given - it is better to choose a car with only the most necessary details for your comfort. Various technological installations, which were modern 8 years ago, are no longer used today and are not a good addition to your car. A good choice would be a car with climate control, cruise control, good rims, heated seats and good music. Prices can be divided into the following groups:

  • up to 350,000 rubles - cars manufactured in 2009 that already have a mileage of 200,000 km and clearly need certain work, such cars can be bought for restoration;
  • from 350,000 to 400,000 rubles - the most common category for finding a car of this class, it is in this price category that you should start looking for a car in good condition;
  • from 400,000 to 480,000 rubles - newer cars of 2010-2011 with moderate mileage (which you need to check for winding), you overpay for confidence in quality;
  • from 480,000 to 550,000 rubles - a category in which you can buy a quite good Golf in excellent condition with a complete set suitable for you, there is a choice of colors, engines and boxes;
  • over 550,000 rubles - either an inappropriate overpayment, or the purchase of a sports, designer version of the car, for which you are ready to pay more than the market offers on average.

Buying a Golf 6 with a mileage of 200,000 km is always a lottery. Cars with such indicators on the odometer are already pretty tired, they have many pronounced problems, which a specialist will find at a good station. Therefore, before buying a car, it is better to contact the service station and check, diagnose all the details. Only after that you will be able to make a final decision about the purchase of transport.

Competitors - what else to look at in the secondary market?

Before buying a car, you should study the market and understand which models you can buy for your money. It is possible that the market will offer even more interesting competitive options. Let's look at other 2010-2012 cars in the same price range as the Golf, without being tied to specific classes and segments. That is, below are exclusively Volkswagen's price rivals in different categories:

  1. SkodaOctaviaA5 2010-2012 of the year. After restyling, cars can be bought with more interesting engines, including 1.8 TSI. The average price of a car is 400,000 rubles, but you can find cheaper representatives.
  2. Fordfocus 2010. The machine promises a very comfortable ride, quite an attractive appearance, the reliability of each unit in the line and quite decent equipment. Price from 350,000 rubles.
  3. ChevroletCruze 2010. In addition to a low landing and a somewhat low ground clearance, the car has no particular problems. The engines are Korean, atmospheric, simple, the boxes are traditional and without expensive parts. The cost is from 350,000 rubles.
  4. RenaultMeganeIII 2011. The third generation of Megan was sold in Russia, but you need to be careful. Many cars are brought from Europe, there are problems with them both in terms of fuel quality and possible damage. The cost is from 400,000 rubles.
  5. OpelAstraJ2011. The last generation of the Astra, which was sold in Russia. The car is very decent in terms of build quality, the technologies are simple, there are no expensive and unpleasant breakdowns. The cost of Astra J starts from 400,000 rubles.

You can continue the search by expanding it to completely different classes of machines. You can say that it makes no sense to compare Golf and Megane, these are completely different categories of buyers. But you might like French better, so it's worth checking out all the options. Moreover, in the secondary market, you should buy the car that you find in very good condition.

We also offer you to watch a video review of the sixth Golf and make a final purchase decision:

Summing up

Today, aftermarket auto experts have largely taken up arms against Volkswagen cars. Newer versions of the machine are generally not advised to buy used, as the equipment is very demanding and incredibly difficult to maintain. Most technical units are not suitable for Russian operating conditions, they often fail and spoil the brand image. But in many ways, this militia is part of the fight against the brand and the competitive market. If you ask the owner of a Golf or another VAG model, he will say that he is quite happy with his purchase.

So we recommend that you pay attention to your own impressions of a trip by car, and not to someone else's recommendations and expert advice. If you find a Volkswagen Golf VI with excellent quality and great features, it is worth buying it. But the competitive market will not be superfluous to study. There are many interesting options here that will attract you with design, engines, interior dimensions and other parameters. And what car would you prefer today in the secondary market in the Golf class?

Volkswagen Golf MK 6

VW GOLF MK6, the car has been produced since 2009. Until January 2010, the car was assembled in Russia, in addition to Germany. Due to the start of production of the Semi Sedan, assembly is only done in Germany (And that's good!).



The most vigorous version in the Golf 6 R20 family 256 hp and all-wheel drive

Golf 6, like the previous generation, is built on the same base as the Audi A3, Audi TT, and there are all sorts of Skoda, Seat. The choice of the buyer is presented with a wide range of engines, there are turbocharged gasoline engines, atmospheric engines, turbodiesel engines.



There are even all-wheel drive versions. By the way, 2-liter turbo versions do not suffer from excessive devouring of engine oil, unlike Skoda and Audi, where the engine design is slightly different. There are also several options for transmissions: 5st and 6st mechanics or a 6-speed robot. Automatic transmission DSG and 7-st. Automatic transmission DSG (came to replace the 6th robot). According to many owners, VAG has not solved many problems with DSG, to this day many problems arise with this transmission, although the main trump card of this box is the highest performance, so to say it is great for athletes !! Unlike its classmates, the Golf 6 is distinguished by a higher quality of finishing materials and equipment (less oak plastic, and the number of options will satisfy anyone), probably with the exception of a BMW penny, but the price is inadequate for it.

For the shortcomings of the Golf 6, the following list will be presented:

1. Due to the large holes in the lower part of the bumper, with intensive use, the radiator cells may be damaged over time, as a lot of pebbles fly there. The problem is solved by attaching an aluminum mesh (details are described on the specialized forums). The grid will take all the impact!

2. Chips on the paintwork appear after a year of constant operation. For the sake of the environment, water-based acrylic paints are used and the paint layer itself is very thin. Thresholds are painted with anti-gravel paint without prior application of primer, directly on top of the metal. Although, when compared with Japanese brands, it didn’t go anywhere. But still there are instances with good quality of painting, but there are few of them.

3. Scratches on glasses during the first year of operation. The reason is the priority towards passive safety, so a plastic scraper does not need to clean the snow on the windshield. As a solution, you can try to put wipers with softer rubber. Although this will not help much, you can still put non-original glass, but some buyers may have questions when selling.

4. Problems with the driver's door lock. At low temperatures, the driver's door lock starts to jam. It is not always possible to open from the key fob, so you have to open it directly ...

The 1.6-liter naturally aspirated 8-valve (!) BSE/BSF/CCSA 102-horsepower multiport injection engine is ideal for those who are in no hurry. Power is not enough, of course, but for a C-class car it will go for a leisurely ride. Moreover, the potential mileage before overhaul is under 500 thousand. In the nature of valves, hydraulic compensators, the timing belt serves according to the regulations of 90 thousand, but it would be useful to slightly reduce the interval.
- 1.4-liter aspirated (80 hp) CGGA - from the same opera, although the cylinder head is 16-valve, which complicates and increases the cost of maintenance a little. For Golf, the choice is dubious due to the very modest return. The timing is also belt-driven with the same interval, the thermal clearance in the valves is also regulated by hydraulic compensators, the injection is also distributed and reliable.
- 1.2 TSI CBZA / CBZB motors are especially bad until 2011, when they changed the design of a very fragile timing drive, where the chain could stretch to 30 thousand mileage. The turbine in the first years also served less than 100 thousand, then it was finalized, but still the resource is obtained in the region of 160-180 thousand. And even if the car is after 2011, there remains a high-pressure fuel pump with nozzles and coking of piston rings. All this, again, on runs closer to 150.
- 1.4 TSI (122 hp CAXA) of the EA111 series has a less problematic timing drive (and yet the chain can be stretched to 100-120 thousand), a stronger turbine, about the same fuel equipment, but noticeably less successful than on 1.2 TSI, a piston group, which not only actively cokes, but piston burnouts also occur. Basically - due to overheating due to the death of the intercooler, pump or just a clogged radiator.
- Higher boosted 1.4 TSI (160 hp, CNWA, CTHD, CTKA, CAVD) in addition to all the problems of the 122 hp CAXA also have a problem with early wear of the crankshaft liners. The dual boost system with a turbine and a drive compressor did not cause problems in the first years, but the complexity is high, so by 10 years and closer to 180-200, you can expect expenses for this part too.
- Engines 1.8 (CDAA) and 2.0 TSI (CCZB, CDLG) - EA888 series. The set of problems is similar to younger engines - an oil-burning piston group, a vulnerable direct injection system, a timing chain with a chain life of around 100 thousand. The problems of the 888th series were cured by 2013-2014, when the sixth Golf was no longer produced.
- A general recommendation for all gasoline turbo engines: thorough diagnostics upon purchase (preferably with a dealer scanner, endoscope and lick test), and during operation - maintenance intervals reduced to 10 thousand and high-quality oil (preferably ester and not too liquid, 5W50 at the most once).
- Diesel engines 1.6 TDI (CAYC) 2.0 TDI (CBDC, CBAA, CBAB) - the whole variety of the EA189 line with Common Rail injection. In our country, these motors are well known from the Tradewinds, but they are not very common on Golfs in Russia. There are typical diesel difficulties, such as the need to clean the EGR valve and deal with a clogged particulate filter, but the power system has every chance to last up to 200 thousand. Of the unexpected weaknesses of the 2.0 TDI is the wear of the oil pump drive, which lives 140-200 thousand. Check if it was changed if the car is running.

Viewed KIA Ceed, KIA Soul, Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, Skoda Octavia, Suzuki SX4, VW Golf and Jetta. Opel did not even look (according to personal experience of ownership), the French - too (according to personal opinion, possibly erroneous). Mitsubishi - due to the cost of maintenance (exorbitant prices for original spare parts, especially body parts), Mazda - because at that time Mazda 3 cost around 900 thousand rubles. in a decent package.

Of the viewed - briefly cons:

Ceed - Very much so. But: the gearbox shift mechanism is worse, the finishing materials are cheaper, the noise is worse. In general, the car for your money is super. In addition, it is very spacious for a C-class.

Soul - in my opinion, except for the design, there is nothing good in it.

Corolla - the interior is relatively poor and cramped, with the declared higher power, the dynamics are subjectively worse, the noise is bad.

Civic - low ground clearance, controversial design, noise.

Octavia - at that time in the normal configuration is expensive, not cheaper than VW.

Of the Jetta and Golf, I preferred the Golf, because at that time the Jetta with the mechanics came out even more expensive than the next generation Golf.

Golf pros:

Excellent finishing materials, excellent noise isolation in relation to the class, ergonomics. I personally liked the 4th Generation Golf's conservative styling. Eats 92nd gasoline without problems (officially acceptable for use), relatively inexpensive to maintain compared to many competitors. Good, simple and understandable German design, plenty of space under the hood. For example, changing a light bulb yourself is not a problem, it takes 5 minutes. I really liked the suspension, quite stiff, but "not pierced" - so far it has not been possible to pierce even once.

Excellent quality of a paint and varnish covering, branches, scratching the car, do not leave marks.

Pretty spacious interior front and rear.

Excellent work wipers, windshield washers and headlight washers. The latter work automatically, not very often, while consuming not too much washer and actually washing away most of the dirt.

I really liked the work of the traction control system - there is no full-fledged ESP in my configuration, but this system works perfectly, without interfering ahead of time, and really helping in corners if you make a mistake or compensate for the wet road surface. If desired, it can be turned off by pressing one button.

Rich equipment with pillows in the basic configuration - 7 pcs., including a knee pad for the driver.

A very high range of seat adjustments (including passenger) - both in the longitudinal direction and in height.

Excellent work in the automatic mode of dual-zone climate control. Comfort in the cabin and no fog on the windows.

A pleasant trifle - you set the speed, when it is exceeded, a signal is heard in the cabin. It is very convenient not to get fined and not be distracted by the speedometer.

Of the minuses:

From time to time, almost from the beginning of operation, one of the speakers begins to crackle, and different ones. Sometimes it's all right. Under warranty, I will definitely contact you later, there is no desire to waste time.

Engine 1.6 l, 102 horsepower - for a reasonable ride, of course, it is excellent, but I would like more.

A specific feature - when idling while standing still - the engine does not warm up. After 20-30 min. The arrow of the coolant temperature sensor does not rise, barely warm air is blowing from the deflectors. It is worth moving - the temperature rises to operating temperature in a couple of minutes. Rescues excellent three-stage heated seats.

P.S. Fuel consumption: city, serious traffic jams, slow driving: 11-13 liters.

City, free roads, active driving: 9-11 liters.

Highway, mode 110-140: 7.5-8.5 liters.

Golf 1.6 mechanics 2012. Guess the mileage.

Golf, this is the German that I would personally buy myself! But not on a turbo and not on a DSG, stupidly on a 1.6 and a stick. Yes, I'm a boring old fart!
Motors.
Large range of engines. From 1.2 to 2.0 liters. Both turbo and atmospheric engines, both diesel and gasoline engines. I will not write about all the problems of all motors.
A bunch of information on engines on the Internet, I wouldn’t take a 1.4 turbo for myself, for many reasons
1.8 turbo would probably take, but only with low mileage.
What I would take without delving into anything is 1.6 atmosphere!

He has the least problems. The timing belt is on the belt, so sometimes you need to change it. I personally prefer the chain, but both the belt and the chain have their drawbacks. To each his own, as they say.
You can diagnose the timing chain on VAG through Vasya the diagnostician. We look at the% deviation and indirectly, this will tell about the state of the timing chain.
The mileage is stored in the DSG, it can be read if it has not been cleaned up there.
Checkpoint.
There are definitely mechanics, there is definitely a DSG. Tell me, was there a simple machine on Golf 6? Never seen one, but it's possible he was. In the comments, unsubscribe who knows.
DSG problems, I think, it’s not even worth writing, the topic has been riddled with daaaaa, and for those who want to buy VAG on DSG, just enter the problems in Yandex - DSG, read everything, and then decide whether it’s worth it!
But the mechanics are problem-free, almost on all cars!

Khodovka
I must say that the chassis itself is excellent! Golf rulitsya well, clear steering, good cornering. Of course, this is not a racing car, but in the conditions of the city, it copes with a bang. At least not afraid of turns, unlike some other cars.
Front MacPherson, rear levers, not a beam! Rear shock absorbers, they are cheap to buy.
Hodovka reliable, long rides without interference at all. The rear silent blocks of the front levers usually die by 150,000 km, or 5-7 years. There are no problems with spare parts if you buy them new. In Chelyabinsk, there are not as many showdowns on the Germans as we would like, but I think you can find everything.
On this car, which you will see below, native brake discs, but it's time to change them. Wear around 1.5mm+

Liquidity.
The car in the Urals is more than liquid! It is spacious, unpretentious, if we take 1.6 atmospheres, it can’t stand anyone’s brain, it starts in winter. In general, the option is problem-free, and such cars are loved on the secondary market!

Liquidity of other motors. Turbo + DSG I write about Chelyabinsk, you can only take it consciously! That is, knowing what problems may arise, and knowing what is there with a 5-year warranty on the DSG7 and so on. A person who understands everything, and consciously buys this car, usually loses nothing at all. Since they take a car, with an honest mileage of about 100,000 km, he still has a guarantee for the DSG, and he does not take a steam bath, but enjoys it. After replacing this box, 2 years warranty is given! And now, having unwound them, and with the advent of the first bells on the link or DSG, they begin to throw it off. And buying this option is already very dangerous if you do not understand all the consequences. In general, people buy fresh VAG for DSG when there is a guarantee for the checkpoint. But after the end of this guarantee, people are afraid of this car, and some, not knowing this, just go for the loot.
DSG can also be checked through Vasya the diagnostician or Vag com. But these are all indirect checks.

Just a turbo but on a stick, sold too! Sometimes this is exactly what they are looking for, a stick and a turbo, while the problem with the box goes away, and the engine will drive 200,000 km anyway. But buying a VAG turbo with real mileage of 200+ can become a big lottery. Therefore, the reality of the run is very important.
Another moment, in Chelyabinsk, they think that if the turbo, then it's cramps. And they pile on the box, especially the owners of new VAGs, after 2 years they take a new one again, and do not spare pressure on the pedal. And the choice of a used VAG is not so simple. It's hard to find a decent one. + many killed.

There is also a 2-3 door version, it is a priori less liquid.
The turbine can also be checked through Vag com or Vasya diagnostician. Inflated or not, that's what is checked there.

LKP
It is worth saying that Golfs were collected in Russia, quite a bit, and so, this is a pure German! LKP is not thin, about 140 microns are measured. I have not seen rotten Golfs, there are few rotten foreign cars in general! And even after a long run, the paintwork is not erased to zero, as happens on some cars. For this Golf is also a huge plus
This particular Golf is whole, in factory paint, all the bolts are in place.

Bolted TV. It makes no sense to check it with a thickness gauge, it is sold in such paint. Even if he was filmed, this does not mean that he was beaten in the face! Since, some people wash radiators, for this they disassemble the face, and so on. In short, you have to watch.
The bolts are also not simple, but sprockets. I hate them more))
1. It is not always clear from them whether they filmed or not.
2. It's hard to wrap them up with them. I don’t remember what and on what car I unscrewed, it seems like the driver’s seat on Meriva, if I’m not mistaken, so, I bought an asterisk for this car, broke it right away. You have to take it better. I broke the second one, which was no longer cheap ... I bought a set of JONNESWAY stars for almost 2 rubles, and unscrewed it in half with grief, even the johnsway bent))) From there, my dislike went) Not practical, it is often inconvenient to twist stars with stars

Appearance.
He is modern on the Golf. When you look at it, it's immediately clear Golf. You can't confuse him with anything. They keep about the same design for a long time, and it makes me think - are they that purebred? and pedigrees? Or just ran out of design ideas for a long time? After all, the 21st century is already, and Golf has remained just Golf. And these are not new bodies produced, but restyling in fact. This is my opinion, I impose on anyone.
Appearance will always be an amateur, although I like the design, but I'm not happy with it.

Sorry for the dirt. but used cars are not always clean.

Salon.
It compares favorably with its quality when compared with the same Yap. In general, it is boring ... Nothing interesting. Everything looks very simple, but everything is convenient and at hand. But there is no this feeling that it’s straight, straight AH how beautiful, or how unusual - this is the first feeling when you get into a Civic or Citroen C4. Here everything is standard. A torpedo is like a torpedo. Mafon as mafon. This climate has been made the same for all Germans for 10 years (really)

The wheel does not wear out for a long time. It's thick and comfortable. it's leather! There is no multi-wheel here, but it is in a particular car. Lies well in the hand. Putting braids on such steering wheels is simply barbaric!

The seats are very comfortable! I'm judging by my ass of course, and a big man might disagree with me, but pronounced lateral support, a very comfortable chair, keeps a good view for a long time, does not sag for a long time. I put ++++, reminiscent of Subaru seats, also very comfortable. Understanding the mileage in the cabin is quite difficult, and sometimes even impossible. After all, with a good owner, it will be difficult to make out 40,000 km and 140,000 km.



Here, mileage gives out not many factors. But if you pay attention to the little things, such as power window buttons, then everything will become clear, although I can tell you that they just often use glasses. Or they smoke in the car, or 100500 more reasons why they were erased, but I do not believe anyone. And all the excuses are standard! The owner of this car does not smoke.


Gear lever.
Here is the mechanic. And the skin has no tears or tears of any kind. And in general, if in addition to follow everything, then the Golf keeps the state of the salon for a very long time - like new.

Even the pedals, and those do not wear out quickly, and have a very good look, even at high mileage. Moreover, as I understand it, the lining itself does not change separately, but only together with the pedal, right? This greatly complicates the preparation for the sale to the same outbids, because you can buy a penny lining, and whoever gets confused for replacing the pedal.
Floor under the driver's feet. also doesn't last very long! Everything is very well done.

G12 antifreeze under the hood, it does not require replacement, as it is written in the book. Everyone decides whether to change or not. But he is always normal in color, he has never seen a colorless one, not even once. You have to top it up sometimes.

Oil change labels under the hood. I pay attention to them - it’s pure neighing, and believe me, there are people with a mileage of 80,000 km on the dashboard, and 120,000 km on the plate))

Even in the trunk there are a lot of pockets and cells, this is a family car, and a lot of people's cells are filled)

Well, you probably understand what the mileage is approximately?

How to check mileage with vag com? This is not possible on all cars, but as I understand it in general, this method only works on diesel engines. I climbed in other blocks, I didn’t find a run, but I’ll still find it! And there will be more posts about the mileage of VAG or other cars, and how to find out or see it.

The main thing is that your choice is conscious. There are a bunch of motors, and different configurations, and boxes. Choose according to your taste and wallet, and most importantly, look for the best option.
I will no longer write badly about any machines. I will write their problems, and you yourself think.
Thank you all for your attention

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