Which is more practical sable or barguzin. What is the difference between sable gas and barguzin

03.03.2020

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GAZ-Sobol represents a group of light-duty trucks, vans and minibuses that have been built by GAZ since November 1998. After the developments in 1994 and the appearance of a small-tonnage vehicle, the automobile enterprise in Gorky decided not to stop the progress made, but to continue to move with the times.

Sobol is the common name for vehicles for various purposes, which have been created at GAZ since 1998. This includes the GAZ-2310 truck, the GAZ-2217 Barguzin minibus, the GAZ-2752 Sobol van and their modifications. All.

For several years, the Sobol GAZ-2310 was produced in a modest edition, and in 2006 it was decided to put it into mass production along with the GAZ-3302 cargo Gazelle. Following this decision, the number of cars immediately began to grow.

In this article, you can learn about the characteristics of the GAZ Sobol, as well as see the GAZ 2310 Sobol. Below is its price and information about all-wheel drive.

Car history

According to the chief designer of machines of the Gazelle divisions (Chetverikov Vladimir Leonidovich), the most important advantage of this model was the weight of the car. It needed to be lowered so that it did not exceed 3.5 tons.

It was planned that the car could be driven not only by drivers with category “C”, but also by those who had only category “B”. When the model began to be assembled, strict limits were set.

To create a lightweight and compact power unit that could fully fit for such a model, there was a serious struggle. Perhaps for some this idea was not to their liking, but the desired motor was nevertheless installed in this vehicle.

The GAZ-27527 Sobol vehicle was developed by the engineering staff of the automobile plant in Gorky. The production of a regular model, where there is a movable side door and rear swing doors, began in 1998.

After 5 years (2003), the production of the second generation of the family of this car began. The update affected the headlights, plumage, dashboard and more.

For a long time, the Sobol small truck was produced in small batches, but since 2006, the model has been on conveyor production for mass production. The machine with an external update in 2003 and the improvement of the units acquired the name "Sobol-Standard".

The model differed from the well-known lorry with a wheelbase shortened to 2,670 mm, an independent front spring suspension and a single-sided rear axle tire. The latter was designed for a reduced carrying capacity - 900 kg.

The division has an all-metal van GAZ-2752 and minibuses GAZ-2217 (Barguzin) and GAZ-22171. This also includes an onboard vehicle (chassis with cab) GAZ-2310.

Barguzin

Since the beginning of 2003, the Sobol division has been subjected to external modernization, almost the same as that of the Gazelle. The plumage design was updated, the rectangular headlights were replaced with modern teardrop-shaped block headlights, and the dashboard was replaced.

After 3 years, the assembly of a small Sobol truck, which had previously been produced only in small batches, was transferred to one conveyor line along with an onboard Gazelle (3302). This made it possible to increase the production of such a vehicle, which was in demand, for example, in Moscow.

After all, it was there that there was a restriction on the entry into the city center of cars, the carrying capacity of which exceeds 1,000 kg. At the end of 2010, Sobol-Business purchased a Cummins ISF 2.8 turbocharged diesel power unit. It was he who also began to be installed on Gazelle-Business.

Such a car is produced only in a limited number for use by the power units of the Russian Federation. With the onset of 2010, it was possible to make another modernization, the slogan of which was that the model should be the basis of well-being and should become more modern and reliable.

As a result, the first model of the NEXT brand was produced from the Gorky Automobile Plant. During this long period of the formation of the machine, a large number of changes were made to Sable.

Today, the Sable has a representative exterior, considerable demand, good maintainability, a modern interior and a power unit. It has an enlarged grille that is synchronized with the bumper.

Also installed new wipers along with heated mirrors. Inside the model, the front panel was replaced, on which the German company EDAG worked. This made it possible to get away from the outdated look and improve the quality of the panel.

The steering wheel was changed, a new heating system was installed and the seats were improved. It became possible to purchase air conditioning as an additional option, and other details of the cabin and interior were also updated.

Updated front panel

In addition to the new Cummins ISF 2.8 power unit, a new Sachs clutch was installed along with shock absorbers from this company. The gearbox already had high-quality SKF bearings along with Hoerbiger synchronizers.

The steering wheel began to work in tandem with the ZF hydraulic booster. They began to install a massive T-Rad radiator along with a Webasto preheater. In total, about 130 parts were changed on the Sobol-Business model, and the improvement affected those nodes that were updated at the start of the Gazelle-Business release.

Engine Cummins ISF 2.8

The reliability of the machine has improved. Now the warranty period has been increased to two years, or 80,000 kilometers for all modifications (except for all-wheel drive vehicles). The declared resource of vehicles has increased to 300 thousand kilometers, and maintenance is carried out every 15 thousand kilometers.

In 2013, the Sobol 4x4 model was released, which was updated. It was subjected to improvements and began to be released for sale. The car began to look more modern and stylish.

The steering wheel received a safety design, the mirrors received the functions of electric heating, the steering column switches were improved, and a sunroof appeared on the roof of the car.

A very nice gift was the installation of a new audio system with control buttons on the steering wheel. As additional options, you could install:

Anti-lock braking system;
Air conditioner;
Electric windows;
Fog lights;
Electric drive of rear-view mirrors;
Locking locks;
Preheater;
Cruise control and the ability to lock the rear differential.

Application area

This car can often be found on the roads. It can be used by utility companies that accept GAZ-2752 for use, where there are 7 seats. Due to the good capacity of the number of workers and the ability to transport the required number of tools, Sobol managed to prove itself on the good side.

Law enforcement agencies have been using these models in their service for more than a year. The car can be used as a fixed-route taxi in the city. Thanks to the side door on the rails, there are no problems with its operation.

Modern cars have a slight advantage, they have become taller, so the passenger-and-freight capacity of the car has increased. Thanks to the increased ceilings, the car allows you to stand in it, which increases the passenger-and-freight capacity even more.

Sable GAZ-2752 has an all-metal van, therefore it provides an opportunity to transport large items. That is why many construction companies have used it in their arsenal. Following the alteration of the Sable, collection organizations and companies began to use it for their own purposes.

Specifications

power unit

The new model began to be equipped with a couple of options, including a gasoline 2.9-liter UMZ-4216 and a promising turbocharged diesel 2.8-liter Cummins. The most interesting is the American version. It has four cylinders in-line, liquid-cooled and produces about 120 horsepower.

When driving at a speed of 60 kilometers per hour, the fuel consumption of GAZ Sobol is 8.5 liters per hundred, and when driving at a speed of about 80 kilometers - 10.3 liters per 100 km.

The unit complies with European environmental standards Euro-3 and Euro-4. The motor is quite reliable and has a resource of about 500,000 kilometers before overhaul.

Transmission

Together with the above motors, a five-speed manual gearbox is paired, in which all speeds are synchronized (except reverse gear).

The razdatka is represented by two gears, in which the gear ratios are 1.07 and 1.86. The clutch is single-disk, dry, having a hydraulic drive.

Suspension

The front-mounted rear-wheel drive suspension has an independent 2-link system. Vehicles with an all-wheel drive system received a dependent suspension on leaf springs.

Front suspension

A stabilizer is installed on all suspensions along with hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers. The rear suspension is leaf spring, where there is a stabilizer and hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers. The designers spent many hours building a good GAZ Sobol 4x4 suspension.

Steering

The steering device is of the "screw-ball nut" type. It also comes with an integrated hydraulic booster. The steering column has a double-jointed steering shaft. It is possible to adjust the steering column for the angle of departure and tilt height.

Brake system

There is a hydraulic drive with a pair of separated circuits for the front and rear wheels. There is also a pressure regulator and a vacuum booster.

The front wheels received disc brakes, while the rear wheels received drum brakes. Handbrake on cables that act on the rear wheels.

Specifications

	GAZ 2752 2.8TD	GAZ 2752 2.9
Dimensions
Length, mm	4810
Width, mm	2030
Height, mm	2200
Ground clearance, mm	150
Front track, mm	1700
Rear track, mm	1700
Wheel base, mm	2760
Turning diameter, m	11
Curb weight, kg	1880
Gross weight, kg	2800
Fuel tank volume, l	70
Tire size	185/75 R16
Disc size	16×5.5J
Engine
engine's type	Diesel turbocharged	Petrol
Number of cylinders / arrangement	4/Inline	4/Inline
Engine power hp / rpm	120/3200	107/4000
Engine displacement, cm³	2781	2890
Torque, N m / revs	297/1600-2700	220/2500
Type of fuel	DT	AI-92
Performance indicators
Acceleration time to 100 km/h, sec	25	23
Maximum speed, km/h	120	135
Transmission, suspension, braking system
Gearbox type	Mechanical, 5 gears
Front suspension	Independent, multi-link
Rear suspension	Dependent, spring
Front brakes	Disk
Rear brakes	drums

Modifications

GAZ-2310- has a chassis on which an onboard platform is mounted, complete with a removable awning. It is possible to install manufactured goods or a specialized van. The vehicle is not subject to signs on the road that apply to trucks. To drive this vehicle, you only need to have a license with category "B".
is an all-metal van and serves as the most common car of all Sables. A blank partition was installed between the 3-seater cabin and the cargo department. The side-mounted door can be moved backwards, while the other doors are hinged. Also, these cars are divided into a diesel variation of the power unit, gasoline, and front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive layout.
GAZ-2752 "Combi"- has a seven-seater two-row cabin. The presence of a side door is necessary for boarding and disembarking people of the 2nd row. The cargo compartment has been reduced.
GAZ-2217 "Barguzin"- The car is 100 millimeters lower than the rest of the cars, and its capacity is 6 passengers in the cabin and a couple of people near the driver.
GAZ-22171 - designed for 6 or ten seats, the rear doors are hinged, and the height is 2.2 meters.
GAZ-22173 - designed for 10 seats, the seats are arranged in rows. This vehicle can be used as a fixed-route taxi. The machine is made to order.
- has an all-wheel drive system (GAZ Sobol 4x4). She increased the cross-country ability, reduced the size and improved maneuverability.

Price

The onboard GAZ-23107, together with the GAZ-231073, is estimated at 715,000 rubles. GAZ-2752 van will cost from 735 thousand rubles. Minibus GAZ-221717 is estimated at 835,000 rubles. It is best, of course, to buy a new GAZ Sobol.

But it is also possible to purchase cars from hands, also in car dealerships, since these models have passed pre-sale diagnostics along with maintenance. Moreover, it may be possible to use additional services of a car dealership.

In the secondary market, you can buy GAZ Sobol in good condition from 200,000 rubles and more. The price will vary depending on the year of manufacture, installed technical devices and general condition.

Advantages and disadvantages

Machine advantages

The car is easy to operate;
Fully justifies its purpose;
Good appearance;
The presence of a spacious and roomy interior, high ceiling;
You can organize a bed;
Good visibility of the driver;
Roomy luggage compartment;
Availability of high-quality and easy-to-maintain Cummins power unit;
There is Webasto to start the engine in cold weather;
There is a hydraulic power steering;
Good passability on a dirt road;
Quite democratic pricing policy;
Reliable rear suspension;
In terms of comfort, Sobol will surpass UAZ or GAZ-66;
Many modifications;
It is possible to install an air conditioner;
There are modifications with an all-wheel drive system;
Low fuel consumption;
Small dimensions.

Cons of the car

Poor workmanship. Many cars do not even pass 40,000 km of run with 80,000 declared in the guarantee;
Weak frame construction;
Often there are problems with the 5th speed in the box, which is a factory defect;
The car does not compete with UAZ, if there is heavy ground, Sable will not pass and can simply sit on bridges;
Despite the large volume of the trunk, it is quite inconvenient. He is tall and short, so often the load falls from above;
Insufficient adjustment of the driver's seat;
There are no niches and pockets inside for various things;
Frequent rolls when cornering at speeds.

In the USSR, there were simply no minivans, as well as a special need for them. But years later, the domestic auto industry showed itself in this previously unknown class of cars. The first Russian minivan was the VAZ-2120 Nadezhda, the second was the GAZ-2217 Sobol-Barguzin. Hopes for the first of these models did not materialize, but the GAZ-2217 found its customers. Despite the fact that he traces his lineage from a cargo van, it can only be called a minivan with a stretch: it is a cross between a full-fledged minibus and a minivan.

Differences GAZ-2217 from the usual "Sobol"

The designers of the Gorky Automobile Plant GAZ-2217 "Sobol-Barguzin" was conceived as a formally passenger car-minivan - with a lower roof than the usual "Sobol", a lifting rear door and an independent front. The salon for seven, in addition to the driver's seat, is equipped with wider and more comfortable seats than in the Sobol, equipped with armrests. There is also a table in the cabin, which, unfortunately, soon becomes very squeaky while driving. To drive this car, a driver's license with an open "passenger" category "B" is also sufficient.

What other differences from the original model - a minibus - does Barguzin have? There are few of them. Pseudo-chrome lining, low roof, lowered driver's seat, and plastic door sills - that's actually the whole "ceremonial suit" that turns a cargo van and a minibus into a "luxury" minivan. Nevertheless, it should be noted that if the usual "Sable" with a high roof looks a little "chest", then the "Barguzin" is much more proportional.

A little about the history of the model. GAZ-2217 modern era

The GAZ-2217 model has been in serial production at the Gorky Automobile Plant since the spring of 1999. A certain number of cars were also produced in an all-wheel drive version - the Sobol Barguzin minivan with a 4 × 4 wheel arrangement, modification GAZ-22177. Previously, there was also a modification of the "Barguzin" in the "luxury" version of the interior trim (from better and more expensive materials). It was called "Riviera". Together with the entire numerous Gazelevsko-Sobolevsky family, the GAZ-2217 survived restylings in 2003 and 2010. Since 2010, it has been published without a prefix to the name "Barguzin" - under the name "Sobol Business".

There are five modern modifications of the GAZ "minibus-minivan" with a low roof:

GAZ-2217-744- with a 4x2 wheel formula, a UMZ-A274 Evotech gasoline engine;
GAZ-2217-344- with a 4x2 wheel arrangement, Cummins ISF 2.8L diesel engine;
GAZ-22177-743- with a 4x4 wheel formula, a UMZ-A274 Evotech gasoline engine;
GAZ-22177-343- with 4x4 wheel arrangement, Cummins ISF 2.8L diesel engine.

Modern GAZ-2217 has a large number of foreign-made components. In particular, ZF power steering, Sachs shock absorbers and clutch, Bosch brakes, Anvis engine mounts (Germany), a modern instrument panel from EDAG, Hoerbiger gearbox synchronizers (all of these manufacturers – Germany); T-Rad radiator (Japan), Tirsan Kardan cardan (Turkey), SKF bearings (Sweden).

GAZ-2217 engines

GAZ-2217 of the first generation (until 2003) were equipped with ZMZ-402 carburetor engines with a volume of 2.5 liters, 8-valve, power 100 hp. and ZMZ-406.3 with a volume of 2.5 liters, 16 valves, power 110 hp. As well as an injection 16-valve ZMZ-406 with a volume of 2.3 liters, 110 horsepower.

In 2003-2009, injection engines ZMZ-40522.10 (2.5 liters 16 cells, 140 hp) were installed on the GAZ-2217; ZMZ 40524.10 (2.5 l, 140 hp); UMZ-42164 (2.89 l, 78.5 hp) and Chrysler DOHC 2.4L (2.4 l, 137 hp). Chrysler engines were intended only for luxury versions of the car (for the Rivière).

Since 2010, minivans-minibuses with a low roof GAZ-2217 have received 2 types of power units standard for all Sobolevsky brothers: a four-cylinder injection UMZ-A274 Evotech and a four-cylinder turbocharged diesel Cummins ISF 2.8L.

UMZ-A274 Evotech: working volume - 2.69 l; rated net power according to GOST R 41.85 - 78.5 kW (106.8 hp), cylinder diameter - 96.5 mm, piston stroke - 92 mm. Environmental standard - Euro-4.
Cummins ISF 2.8L: working volume - 2.8 l; rated power, net: 88.3 kW hp (120 hp), cylinder diameter - 94 mm, piston stroke - 100 mm. Environmental standard - Euro-4.

Transmission, chassis and suspension GAZ-2217

There are no gearbox options yet: this is a five-speed manual gearbox common to the entire Sobol family, synchronized. It is also connected to the engines by a standard friction clutch of a dry design, with a hydraulic control drive. Previously, the clutch was made domestically, and in modern versions of the GAZ-2217 - from the German company Sachs.

All-wheel drive vehicles GAZ-22177, GAZ-22177-343, GAZ-22177-743 are additionally equipped with a lockable center differential and a two-speed transfer case with a reduction gear.

GAZ-2217 cars are built on the basis of a frame chassis. At the front, they are equipped with an independent two-link spring suspension with gas-filled shock absorbers and an anti-roll bar. A dependent spring suspension is installed at the rear; on 2 longitudinal semi-elliptic springs, with hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers of two-sided action.

Length - 4.81 m, width - 2.03 m, height - 2.1 m;
Wheelbase - 2.76 m;
Track, the same for the front and rear wheels - 1.7 m;
Ground clearance - from 150 mm (4x2) to 260 mm (for all-wheel drive);
The curb weight of the car is 2055 kg;
Gross weight - from 2800 to 3000 kg, depending on the modification;
With a Cummins ISF2.8L diesel engine, the curb weight is 2245 kg;
Regular recommended load capacity - from 505 to 635 kg;
Maximum speed - 120 km / h, acceleration to 100 km / h - 23 seconds;
Fuel tank capacity - 64 or 70 liters, depending on the configuration;
Wheel size - 215 / 65R16;
Manufacturer's warranty - 2 years, or 80 thousand kilometers. Recommended maintenance is every 15 thousand kilometers.

Cabin and salon GAZ-2217

In terms of passenger and cargo capacity, the Barguzin, for obvious reasons, will give odds to any, the most spacious minivan - the cargo origin affects. Despite its short length, the GAZ-2217 is quite capable of carrying not seven, but ten, and even more passengers: its internal width easily allows four seats to be installed in a row. However, to increase comfort - after all, this is a "luxury" version of the "Sable" - the interior was equipped like a "coupe": wider and more comfortable "Volgov" seats with armrests are installed here, and only three of these seats fit in a row.

Unlike the standard for both minivans and minibuses of a similar type of layout (seats one behind the other), in the GAZ-2217 compartment, the front seats are “back to front” “facing” to the rear.

Salon "Barguzin" - the size of a small room: length 2.5 m, width 1.8 m, height 1.33 m. You can easily move from place to place, bending down. In the middle is a reclining table equipped with a regular lamp. Velor upholstery on all versions looks very dignified in the GAZ-2217 cabin, and you can isolate yourself from the world with special curtains if you want to relax.

In the cockpit, instead of the standard double “sofa”, a single wide seat with folding armrests is placed to the right of the driver. In any place (both passenger and driver's) a person of even the most impressive, “heroic” build can easily and easily accommodate, and moreover, it will not be particularly convenient for a driver below 170 centimeters tall to drive the GAZ-2217.

But the transformation of the cabin was not initially thought out. The only possible layout (seats "face to face") is laid down by the manufacturer with no options. It is impossible to change it by moving the seats, as in "bourgeois" minivans - they are permanently attached to the floor.

For the sake of the mythical "negotiations" of an imaginary "businessman", one has to put up with trips "back to front" (in the middle row of seats). And, if for ten to fifteen minutes of an intracity trip this does not cause any inconvenience, then for several hours on a suburban highway it is already completely unnatural. In addition, the seat backs of the third row were deprived of tilt adjustments - also a necessary feature on a many-hour long-distance trip.

The cabin is separated from the main cabin by a high partition. Therefore, you can only go from the front seats to the salon along the street. Although there is enough space here to make a passage.

But! In modern versions of the GAZ-2217, these shortcomings have been eliminated. The salon received considerable opportunities for transformation. It's easy to fold down the seat cushions and get over 3.5 extra cubic meters of luggage space. It is possible not only to recline the backs, but also to expand the seats completely, getting a wide “bed”. It also became possible to enter the salon without going outside.

GAZ Sobol 2217 is a Russian-made light-duty vehicle used mainly in the commercial sector. Its design was created with the expectation of movement on Russian roads, so businessmen willingly use this car for transportation. Comfortable, maneuverable, multifunctional - only a small part of the feedback from the owners. "Sable" is also used in government agencies, emergency and public services.

Universal machine

GAZ-2217 Barguzin is used to transport passengers. Two options are available to the buyer: for 6 seats and 10. All residents of Russia know this car as a yellow fixed-route taxi. The machine can serve as a mobile office, this is facilitated by the convenient location of the seats, the presence of armrests, headrests and a folding table with individual lighting. The layout of the cabin allows you to install additional seats to increase the maximum number of passengers.

According to its technical characteristics, GAZ-2217 is not inferior to foreign competitors in this class. The small size of the car allows the driver to move comfortably along the streets and courtyards of large cities and park in tight parking lots.
This machine is not limited to basic versions. The owner can install one of the many superstructures or a cargo van. The manufacturer offers consumers flatbed minibuses with different frame options.

Design

Minibus GAZ-2217 has the following technical characteristics:

Length - 4.8 / 4.9 m;
Width - 2.1 m;
Height - 2.1 / 2.2 m;
Wheelbase - 2.8 m;
Wheel formula - 4x2 / 4x4;
Capacity - 6+1 / 10+1;
Clearance - 15 / 19 cm;
The volume of the power unit - 2.89 l;
Power plant power - 107 / 120 horsepower;
Maximum speed - 120 / 130 km / h.

During the production of the car, several types of engines were used. In 1998, ZMZ engines (402, 406.3 and 406) were installed on the car. Their characteristics differed only in the number of valves. A diesel version of the GAZ-5601 was also offered. In 2003, engineers carried out modernization, after which an injection power unit for 140 horsepower and a turbodiesel from the Gorky Automobile Plant "5601" were used in production. In 2008, the device was supplemented with the Chrysler DOHC 2.4L power plant, which developed up to 137 horsepower. The diesel engine 5601 was changed to 5602. In 2009, they came to the final version: gasoline UMZ-4216.10 and turbodiesel Cummis ISF 2.8L.

The latest generation engine has four cylinders. There are 2 valves per cylinder. In the case of the diesel version, there are 4 valves per cylinder. The working volume is 2.89 or 2.781 liters. The maximum power is 107 (at 4 thousand revolutions) or 120 (at 3.2 thousand revolutions) horsepower.

There is also a version with all-wheel drive, designed for rural areas, where off-road is not uncommon. The scheme of this option includes a single-lever transfer case. A power steering is also provided to improve handling. In some modifications, the driver can turn off one bridge.

The clutch includes one disc and is dry type. The drive is carried out by a hydraulic mechanism. The manual transmission has six steps: five forward and one reverse.

Wishbones form the basis of the front independent suspension. The designers added anti-roll bars to its device. The rear dependent suspension is based on two longitudinal semi-elliptical springs.

When buying, you can choose additional features, which include a multifunction steering wheel, air conditioning, power windows and electric adjustment of the side mirrors. For diesel options, cruise control is provided.

The interior of the car is comfortable, but simple. At the disposal of the driver - a four-spoke steering wheel, gear lever, dashboard with system indicators. Medium quality materials are used for interior trim, they serve for many years. The seats are upholstered in fabric. Airbags are not provided, the ABS system is included in the basic package. There are two versions - with a low and high roof. This does not affect the equipment of the cabin.

Disadvantages and advantages

The quality of the factory assembly of the GAZ-2217 Barguzin is at an average level. There are cases when parts are poorly screwed, there are not enough bolts, etc.

The first significant "sores" make themselves felt 4-5 years after the start of operation and lie in the box and transfer case, front axle and power steering hose. They appear after the first 40-50 thousand kilometers, happen in a different order. The first comprehensive diagnosis is recommended after 90-100 thousand kilometers.

The scheme of the machine is simple, so there are no special problems with repairs. Spare parts can be easily found in specialized stores. It is necessary to clearly know the catalog numbers of parts, since in different years of production they differ in size. The large windshield provides good visibility for the driver.

The main advantage of the GAZ-2217 car, because of which it is in demand, is its quick commercial payback. If you use the car as a fixed-route taxi, then you can work out the cost for 100 thousand kilometers. Upon reaching 200 thousand mileage, experienced owners recommend selling equipment if it is still in working order. By this milestone, there are no “native” parts in its design, except for the frame, body, engine and power steering (in rare cases).

Conclusion

GAZ-2217 Sable and Barguzin is a good car that is worth the money. The whole family turned out to be successful and sold in millions of series throughout Russia and abroad.

The new GAZ-2217 costs 650-800 thousand rubles. The final cost depends on the configuration and selected additional features. To the delight of buyers - power steering is included in the basic equipment.

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Choosing a car is a very difficult task. The car range of minibuses is very diverse. However, today there are so many similar models of different cars that not everyone can qualitatively distinguish even a barguzin from a sable. The task is further complicated by their great external similarity. So what is the difference between sable and barguzin? More on this later.

What is "Barguzin"?

Barguzin is comfortable minibus. This modification is convenient in management and maintenance. Convenience is expressed in an independent front suspension, especially in the city. The salon is designed in such a way as to comfortably carry passengers and negotiate, arrange business meetings or just work in the car. For this, a special table is provided in the cabin, at which you can both work and relax. Barguzin can be an excellent choice for a large family for out-of-town vacation trips.

The car was originally planned by the designers as a minivan. The roof was slightly lowered in comparison with its predecessor "Sable". Landing also became lower. The driver's seat is quite ergonomic, comfortable steering wheel. In the cabin itself, the seats are located “face to face”. When talking, it is very convenient. The seats themselves are tightly welded, which simply eliminates the alteration of the cabin.

High landing has its advantages - driver has excellent visibility in all directions. You can park on your own even in the city. Modifications are available with both petrol and diesel engines.

Most often, such cars are used by organizations of various activities to receive and transport customers or arrange business trips. The salon is equipped with seats with comfortable headrests and armrests, which, although not a necessity, however, create increased comfort when moving. All this is Barguzin.

What is "Sobol"?

Sable is a workhorse. If in a nutshell. Here, less comfortable conditions for passengers - everything is simple and functional. The car is good for short distance transportation of passengers. Most often used to connect the city with the settlements of the region. The cabin has 10 seats and good sound insulation. For more comfortable transportation in the hot summer time, a ventilation hatch on the roof is provided. Also, the side windows slide comfortably for better ventilation. The rear doors are great for loading luggage.

The model itself was originally developed as a substitute for the usual "loaf", but only with a different design and improved performance. The car passed the cross-country ability test in several foreign races and even showed good results on summer tires.

Low gear cardan shafts with CV joints will help you get off many hills and ravines, and the power steering makes driving easy and comfortable. The angle of the steering wheel can also be adjusted to your liking.
In terms of external dimensions, the Sobol is quite suitable for the city: it is no more than a business class sedan in length. True, the width is slightly larger than a passenger car. However, this does not prevent him from maneuvering in a car stream - a wide view is provided by a high seating position and a rear-view mirror.

They produce a car with gasoline and diesel engines. The maximum speed is 120 km/h. Due to the fact that the designers equipped the car with a separate transmission and gearbox, and the engine was installed longitudinally. This made it possible to achieve a simple all-wheel drive scheme.

In service, Sable is unpretentious. Driving is quite comfortable. The car copes well with moderate off-road and rough roads.

What are the main differences between Sobol and Barguzin?

To summarize, the differences between the two models can be summed up in the following points:

Equipment. Both "Sobol" and "Barguzin" have a choice of both diesel and gasoline. However, the former is more common in all-wheel drive, while the latter is not. Also, the Barguzin has an independent front suspension, while the Sobol has both dependent ones.
Appearance. From the outside, both cars are very similar. A distinctive feature is the different structure of the rear doors and the painting of the side windows of the rear view - for the Barguzin they are the same color as the car, for the Sobol they are black. Also, the Barguzin mirrors are equipped with heating and airflow.
Salon. Salon "Barguzin" is not subject to alteration, because the seats are located "face to face" and are tightly welded. Salon "Sable" is more familiar - here the seats go one after another and the number of seats is larger. However, Barguzin has a table in the salon.
under the hood. Dealers often offer Barguzin with a gasoline engine of 123 or 133 horses. Modifications of the Sobol with a diesel counterpart are much easier to find.
Controllability. On the road, both cars develop up to 120 km / h, but the handling of the Barguzin is better.
Price. The cost of the car is significantly lower than its analogues of foreign production. Moreover, both "Sable" and "Barguzin". However, in maintenance, Sobol is cheaper.

There are no special differences, except for the body, in the design of the GAZ 2217 Sobol Barguzin minibus from other "sables". (We examined in detail the technical characteristics of the family in the article “GAZ 27527 Sable: tamed and left in the city ...” using the example of a van) Let's consider this car from a commercial point of view, without avoiding, however, technical and operational issues.

Modern GAZ 2217 and its early variants

Today GAZ 2217 Sobol is offered by the manufacturer in 16 standard versions, all 4x4. It is possible to complete the car according to the schemes of a full permanent drive and a full plug-in drive. Cabins 1+6 or 1+10 (driver and passengers). Body in two versions: with a low and medium roof. Engines: standard Sobolev UMP 4216 (Euro-4 gasoline) and diesel Cumminis (Euro-4). The price fluctuates around 650-800 thousand rubles, depending on the layout. Additional options (differential locks, instrument panels "Lux", color selection, etc.) - for some money.

Also previously there was a modification of Barguzin in the luxury version - Riviera. The price of "lyalechka" is from 710 thousand rubles. The plant today also offers the Sobol-Business option with a superior-comfort saloon, but not much more expensive than ordinary Barguzins. There was also a modification of "Sable-Taxi". A GAZ-5601 turbodiesel was installed on it. The difference between a taxi and other cars is a low roof and only 5 seats for passengers in the cabin. To the right of the driver is a place for luggage.

Previously produced GAZ 2217 and rear-wheel drive. Today, judging by the information of the GAZ Group on the corporate website, there are no such products in production. The factory abandoned them in favor of plug-in all-wheel drive and permanent all-wheel drive. Reviews of "minibuses" about rear-wheel drive versions - at least apply to the wound: when fully loaded, the car confidently holds the road, is maneuverable, and economical. The hydraulic booster facilitates the work of drivers. Some craftsmen independently increase the number of passenger seats in the car up to 11-12, to speed up the payback, but to the detriment of passenger comfort.

Engine

The entire "Sobolevsky" series of engines is installed on the machine. In 1998, the family received 100-110 hp gasoline engines. ZMZ-402 (2.5 l, 8 cells), ZMZ-406.3 (2.3 l, 16 cells) ZMZ-406 (injector, 2.3 l, 16 cells) and the GAZ-5601 diesel plant (2, 1 l, 85 hp)

Since 2003, an injection engine ZMZ-40522.10 (2.5 l. 16 cells, 140 hp) and a GAZ-5601 turbodiesel have been installed. In 2008, Barguzin and his brothers were offered new engines: ZMZ 40524.10 and Chrysler DOHC 2.4L (2.4 l, 137 hp) and a GAZ-5602 diesel engine with 95 hp. Chrysler DOHC 2.4L was subsequently installed only on the luxury version of the Riviera - this is the only serious difference between Barguzin and the GAZ "fur" community.

Since 2009, the GAZ 2217 has received a standard UMZ-4216.10 (2.89 l, 115 hp) and a Cummins ISF 2.8L turbodiesel (2.8 l, 128 hp) for its counterparts.

Operational and technical characteristics

Performance indicators: maximum speed - 120 km / h, acceleration to hundreds - 23 s, average fuel consumption on new cars 10.7 liters. Manufacturer's warranty 2 years or 80 thousand km. Recommended maintenance is every 15 thousand km. The volume of the gas tank is 70 liters.

Dimensions: length / width / height - 4810/2030/2100 mm; base - 2760 mm; the same track for the front and rear wheels - 1700 mm. Ground clearance 150-260 mm (for different weights). Curb weight 2055 kg, gross weight - 2800-3000 kg (for different weights).

Disadvantages and advantages

The build quality of domestic cars always leaves much to be desired. For example, in one of the reviews, the happy owner of the Riviera (I remind you that this is the most expensive Sable), immediately after the purchase, discovered the missing step for entering the passenger compartment - the part simply was not screwed on as expected, and flew off somewhere along the way from the passenger compartment. Others complain about the lack of bolts in the required quantity where they should be, or their quick loss after 10-15 thousand km. The cases found on the network are isolated. But - blatant: this should not be!

The main problems that owners of cars that have been released from the assembly line for 4-5 years complain about are: gearbox and transfer case, front axle, power steering hose. These problems start selectively. It seems that different shifts of machines and units are assembled at GAZ using different technologies and from different components. The suspension begins to "harm" almost everyone after 40-50 thousand km. Closer to 100,000 km, ball bearings and struts are expected to be replaced, springs may begin to sag. After 100 thousand km, the car requires careful attention to all remaining original chassis parts as a whole.

In many reviews, there is a complaint about the absolutely inconvenient location of the fuel pump filter: to get to it, you need to remove the fuel tank. And the towing eye, the need for which has been talked about for 10 years or more, has not appeared at the rear.

Maintenance and repair of cars of early models do not cause any problems for mechanics, but they greatly annoy owners: over the years, cars break down more and more often, and spare parts from new models may differ in size. When ordering parts that were installed specifically on your car, you must accurately indicate their catalog numbers in order to avoid surprises.

Another point (which cannot be attributed to obvious shortcomings, rather to the ill-conceived layout of the cabin) is a small luggage space at the back. By the way, in different modifications there are two options for the back door: two swing doors (they open well, it is convenient to load, but there are comments about weak locking hooks) or one opening up (on the versions "Prestige", "Riviera", "Taxi" - very convenient) . But through both options you still won’t download much - there’s nowhere.

All drivers note good visibility in the car (both in front and in the rear-view mirrors) and handling. Complaints about the stove (one of the biggest pluses in terms of comfort) were not found in the reviews.

Payback - up to 1 year in the taxi mode, with low operating costs and low fuel consumption for its class. It is the payback that becomes the main reason for buying Sable. Experienced owners of the GAZ 2217 advise squeezing the maximum out of the car up to 200 thousand km and selling it if something remains of it. By such a milestone, a car as a “minibus” pays off twice.

But by 200 thousand mileage, there is practically nothing left in the car, except for the native engine and frame, strong vibrations are observed throughout the body, defects in its poor-quality assembly are fully manifested. The last statement is debatable, since (see above) - different shifts of workers assemble different identical machines. This fact also does not apply to cars of 2013 (another update) - there is still little information on the operation of new cars, it is too early to draw conclusions.

Summary

Let's be brief: the car is worth the money. But in general, Sables are a very successful family of commercial vehicles, we emphasize: namely commercial vehicles. With a smart approach to operation, the machine pays for itself. In addition: it allows you to earn on the same, and leave a little more money brought to the owner. If these “workhorses” are not worked out to the state of “trash on wheels”, then you can still earn extra money on them when selling them - there is a stable demand for used cars. Some pluses, if we talk about business.

What is the difference between Sable and Barguzin?

sable is a furry animal, and barguzin is a person 🙂
GAZ 2217 (Sobol-Barguzin)
Price range:
9280$ 11553$
Sobol-Barguzin is the top modification in the family. This comfortable and elegant car clearly demonstrates that you can not only move around on wheels, but also have a good rest, and even work.
The cozy interior of this modification of the Sobol is made in the form of a compartment, which is important if the Barguzin is used as a business car, since it is more natural and pleasant to communicate while sitting face to face. Six very comfortable passenger seats have armrests and headrests. And in the middle of the cabin is a small folding table. It can easily accommodate, for example, a laptop computer or documents that can be studied even at night, since there is an individual lighting lamp above the table.
Comfort for the driver and passengers of the Sobol, as well as handling, ride and stability at high speeds are improved through the use of an independent front suspension. This brings Sobol as close as possible to passenger cars in terms of comfort.
A mini-office, a recreation room on wheels, a comfortable and practical means of transportation for a large family, and possibly for a group of friends. How you will use this car is up to you. "Sobol-Barguzin" is designed to create the best conditions for various situations.
All-wheel drive car GAZ-22177 "Sobol" is designed for passenger transportation in difficult road conditions and rural areas as a service delivery vehicle, as well as for use as a "family" car for outdoor activities.
The car has spring front and rear suspensions, single tires for all wheels, power steering.
Specifications
dimensions
GAZ-2217 GAZ-22177 4x4
Length, mm 4840 4940
Width, mm 2075 2075
Height, mm 2100 2200
Wheel base, mm 2760 2760
Wheel track, mm 1700 1720
Specifications

GAZ-2217 GAZ-22177 4x4
Passenger capacity 10 / 6* people
* — in the performance of "luxury"
Vehicle weight, kg
Curb 2130-2180 2370
Full 2800-2980 3000
Gearbox Five-speed manual
Transfer case - GAZ-23107 (single lever)

wheel suspension
Front Independent, double-lever, spring with gas-filled shock absorbers and anti-roll bar Dependent, on two longitudinal semi-elliptical leaf springs, with double-acting hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers
Rear Dependent, on two longitudinal semi-elliptical springs with anti-roll bar, with double-acting hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers
brakes
The service brake system is hydraulic, dual-circuit, with a vacuum booster, an emergency drop in brake fluid level sensor and a pressure regulator
Front Disc
Rear Drums
Steering
Type "screw - ball nut",
with built-in hydraulic booster,
steering column - adjustable
wheels
Tires, dimension 225 / 60R16 or 215 / 65R16 225 / 75R16C
Barguzin has a lower roof and one door behind
sable above
Barguzin is a Sable with a low roof. You can see the manufactured configurations and order a car for yourself here http://shop.rusma.ru/ - the site of the store at the factory.
Sable is a shortened gazelle, and barguzin is the same only the body is more quadratic, and look at the 4x4 option on Yandex

/ CHOOSE WISELY

"BARGUSINA" I BOUGHT - LIFE DOES NOT TEACH ME...

MAYBE A BUS?

TEXT / YURI NECHETOV

PHOTO / ALEXANDER POLUNIN

The choice even among the available domestic models today is very diverse. Which one do you prefer? I propose, perhaps unexpected, but not devoid of worldly logic, an answer - or rather, my own version of the answer.

From early childhood I was attracted by cars and roads. Probably, it was necessary to become a trucker, but fate turned out differently - nevertheless, he did not lose his gypsy craving for travel. Overgrown with a family, various hobbies appeared - an ordinary passenger car became small. Imagine this picture: a "nine" with five passengers, a windsurfer on the roof, a trailer with sleeping tents, topped with a huge doghouse, in the back! Even the station wagon will not help out - three children, no matter how angels they are, will inevitably fight in the back seat due to crowding.

Maybe a minivan? But I would probably “change” the all-wheel drive transmission of the only available VAZ “Nadezhda” for an even larger interior. And if the seven-seater "Barguzin" GAZ 2217 (ЗР, 1999, No. 10)? Let this be a minibus - I need one like that! In terms of size and maneuverability, it almost does not differ from the Volga. With a height of 2100 mm, not every garage will enter, but I was lucky - the gate turned out to be with a margin. It is quite nice on the outside and less than other "sables", it looks like a bus or a truck - it is not shameful to bring children to the circus on it, to take your wife to the store, to go on business yourself. Every day, wandering around in such a “chest” to work is perhaps too much - well, not everyone needs it.

PRODUCT FACE

I laid eyes on the most affordable modification of the GAZ 2217 -104 with a ZMZ-406 carburetor engine. Prices for it in Nizhny Novgorod start at 205 thousand rubles, in the capital - ten thousand more. There is also a GAZ 2217 -304 for 260 thousand with a GAZ-560 turbodiesel, but this choice is justified only by intensive operation - I can only cover the difference in price by retirement.

According to the factory classification, GAZ 2217 is a luxury minibus. There is only one package: a plastic protective apron on the bottom of the body, fog lights, power steering, tilt and length (!) adjustable steering column, audio preparation with four speakers. And also a headlight corrector, an additional heater in the cabin, a glass sunroof. In general, it remains only to choose a color.

WHAT IS INSIDE?

Wow! Salon "Barguzin" - with a small room: length 2500 mm, width 1800, height 1330 - what you need! You can even move from place to place by crouching. Five comfortable "Volgovsky" chairs, some have armrests. In the middle, a reclining table, even with a lamp, is great: the children will probably lay out toys here, and the wife will serve dinner. Velor upholstery looks rich, and curtains can be fenced off from the world if you want to relax. By the way, even an adult will settle down here - the width allows.

And then I will shoot arrows at those who designed the salon - they obviously did not take into account my interests! All the seats are bolted to the floor, and this completely deprives the owner of the opportunity to adapt the car to specific needs. But it is precisely the variety of transformation options that attract foreign mini-vans and minibuses. This is not provided by the factory - just a few extra holes in the floor! Independent redevelopment is prohibited by the Rules. Show me, gentlemen, designers, that imaginary businessman whose victim I fell? It is for his business negotiations that the salon-compartment is intended.

If you leave everything in it as it is, you will have to put up with offensive shortcomings - for example, go back and forth in the middle row. Fifteen minutes in a trolley bus is all right, but a few hours on the highway is unnatural! And I don’t need seven seats, five are enough, but with all the amenities. The seat backs of the third row are devoid of tilt adjustment, and what could be more pleasant than leaning back on a long trip? The cabin and salon are separated by a low partition - if you please, go around the street. And the trunk - chickens laugh for such a huge car! Moreover, it is half blocked by a spare wheel - could it really not be attached under the floor?

HOW DOES IT GO?

I have known Sobol for a long time and love to ride it: the landing is high, the visibility is excellent, the driver's seat is comfortable. The powerful “406th” motor is a guarantee of good dynamic qualities: you don’t feel flawed even among cars. You need to get used to the steering wheel - at first you move along the road like a drunk: the slightest movement of it turns on the hydraulic booster, which immediately starts turning the wheels. More than two tons of curb weight explain the very high fuel consumption in the city - 15–18 l / 100 km. However, on the highway in economy mode, I fit into the "top ten" - this figure is more important to me. The nose sways noticeably on the waves - the front shock absorbers are rather weak, and on bumps it throws up the stern - for a minibus, the springs should be made softer than for a van.

The Barguzin, like all sables, has mediocre cross-country ability - I got stuck on it in very shallow mud or slush. The reason is the low load on the drive axle of an empty car and the weak “bottoms” of the engine: when you try to drive it stalls, and when gas is applied, it breaks the wheels into slip. By the way, it is precisely in the calculation of a small snowball or ice that an ordinary Mercedes-Sprinter delivery van can be equipped with a limited slip differential - I wonder if GAZ will soon think of this?

IF NOT "BARGUZIN", THEN WHAT?

Only Nadezhda VAZ 2120 can really compete with him for my sympathies and wallet - it is cheaper by about 15 thousand rubles. There is also the Taganrog "Doninvest Orion M", aka "Citroen Berlingo" - also quite spacious, but one and a half times more expensive. And imported classmates - and at all in three-four times. Maybe take some used "Transit"?

Number of seats - 7; curb / gross weight - 2125 / 2800 kg; dimensions (l x w x h) - 4840x2075x2100 mm; maximum speed - 130 km / h; acceleration time from standstill to 100 km / h - 29.2 s; engine displacement - 2287 cm3; power - 81 kW / 110 l. With. at 4500 rpm; torque - 191 N.m at 3500 rpm; fuel consumption (60/80 km / h) - 9.5 / 10.7 l / 100 km.

PRICES FOR SPARE PARTS AND MOT, rub.

TO 10,000 km 2600

TO 20 000 km 2930

Oil filter 60

Air filter 70

Fuel filter 15

Brake pads front 214

Brake shoes rear 192

Alternator belt 160

Timing chains 2x190

Front shock absorber 240

Rear shock absorber 240

Power Steering Gear 5000

Front bumper (complete) 1000

Rear bumper (complete) 2000

Front fender 300

Front door 1700

Rear door (side) 1700

Tailgate 3600

Windshield 1000

Headlight assembly 340

Rear lamp 300

The cost of a standard hour of work 250

The GAZ-2217 minibus of the second generation is a multifunctional passenger car produced since 2010. The minibus received several interior design options and is distinguished by high maneuverability in city traffic, as well as high-quality adaptation to Russian climatic conditions and a fairly low cost of maintenance, which allows the use of GAZ-2217 cars, depending on the version, both as a service minibus and in as a family car.

GAZ-2217 is built on the basis of an all-metal van, but at the same time it received circular glazing and a ventilation hatch already in the basic configuration. The appearance of the minibus is maximally unified with the van, which can significantly reduce the cost of production or repair of body elements.
Like the van, the second-generation minibus received a new bumper and a radiator grille integrated into it, as well as stylish teardrop-shaped head optics.

Minibus "Sobol-Business" GAZ-2217 has several options for interior layout. The basic version (minivan) received a 7-seater (including the driver) version of the "coupe", which in modifications 2217-244 and 22171-344 is supplemented by a folding table located in front of the rear row of seats.

In the “passenger minibus” version, the GAZ-2217 is equipped with an 11-seat saloon (modifications 2217-5244, 22171-5344, etc.) with seats located in the direction of the car.

Access to the passenger compartment is through a sliding door located on the right side of the minibus. In addition, you can get into the salon through the rear swing doors.

The rear row of GAZ-2217 seats can be easily removed, allowing you to carry a small amount of cargo. In addition, we note that the salon can have both a standard (low) roof (modifications 22177-344, 22177-5244, 22177-5345, etc.) and an enlarged (medium) roof (modifications 221717-344, 221717-245 , 221717-5345 etc.).

The wheelbase of the Sobol-Business minibus GAZ-2217 is 2760 mm, and the overall length is 4810 mm. The manufacturer assigned 1030 mm to the front overhang, and 1020 mm to the rear. The width of the minibus does not exceed 2075 mm along the body and 2380 mm including side mirrors. The overall height in the version with a low roof of the cabin is 2100 mm, in the modification with an enlarged roof - 2200 mm. The ground clearance of the minibus is 150 mm (for all-wheel drive versions 205 mm).

The curb weight of the car, depending on the configuration, type of interior and engine, varies from 2050 to 2260 kg. Gross weight, in turn, varies in the range of 2595 - 3040 kg.

The Sobol-Business minibus GAZ-2217 is driven by a gasoline or diesel power unit. Both available motors fully fit into the Euro-4 environmental standard and have 4 in-line cylinders.

The gasoline engine of the UMZ-4216.70 brand received a working volume of 2.89 liters, a power of 107 hp. at 4000 rpm, as well as 220.5 Nm of torque already developed at 2500 rpm. Depending on the design and configuration of the minibus, the average fuel consumption of a gasoline unit is about 10.0 - 12.5 liters per 100 km. A gasoline engine is installed on modifications 2217-244, 2217-5244, 22171-244, 22177-244, 22177-245, 22177-5245, etc.
The Cummins ISF 2.8l diesel unit has a displacement of 2.8 liters, common rail direct fuel injection and a turbocharging system with intercooling of aftercooled air. Its power reaches 120 hp. at 3200 rpm, and the upper torque limit is 297 Nm (1600 - 2700 rpm), while the diesel engine is very economical: 6.6 - 10.2 liters per 100 km, depending on the type of drive and equipment. The Cummins engine is used on modifications 2217-344, 22171-344, 22171-5344, 22177-345, 22177-5344, etc.

All engines of the GAZ-2217 minibus are aggregated with a 5-speed synchronized manual transmission connected to the engine via a Sachs dry single-plate clutch.

We add that in the all-wheel drive versions of the minibus (modifications 221717-244, 221717-345, 221717-5245, etc.), an interaxle locking differential and a 2-speed transfer case with a downshift function are used.

The Sobol-Business GAZ-2217 passenger minibus was created on the same frame platform as the GAZ-2752 van. This means that the front of the minibus received an independent double-lever suspension with gas-filled double-acting telescopic shock absorbers, as well as an anti-roll bar. The rear part of the body of the minibus is supported by a dependent spring suspension with the same gas-filled telescopic shock absorbers and an anti-roll bar.
The braking system of the Sobol-Business GAZ-2217 minibus received two circuits, a hydraulic drive and an ABS system. On the front wheels, the manufacturer uses reinforced disc brakes, on the rear wheels, simple drum brakes are installed. The parking brake of the minibus has a classic cable drive. The steering of the car is built according to the "screw - ball nut" scheme and is already in the base supplemented by an integrated ZF Lenksysteme power steering.

Prices. The standard equipment of the minibus includes 16-inch steel wheels, halogen optics, heated and electrically adjustable side mirrors, a ventilation hatch, interior heater and audio preparation. As an option, the minibus can be equipped with air conditioning, fog lights, additional noise insulation, a roof rack, power windows and a CD-audio system with USB support.
The cost of the Sobol-Business minibus GAZ-2217 in 2017 starts at 850,000 rubles (an all-wheel drive modification will cost at least 875,000 rubles).