As if carved with an ax from a single piece of metal, the body of the Russian Renault had the right to life only thanks to an attractive price. However, in recent years, competitors have taken up arms against the French "budget car", showing much more imagination in artistic terms, and arguments appealing to a modest price have ceased to be quoted. And here you are: as soon as simple forms became a thing of the past, and the car immediately acquired a civilized look, acquiring exaggerated wheel arches, graceful stampings on the bottom of the doors, an impressive bumper outlined by bold and smooth lines and stylish optics. Somewhat defiantly look except that the niches of foglights filled with chrome from the heart.
The wide rear pillar has shrunk in size and now looks literally more sophisticated. Lost deliberate straightforwardness in the design of the trunk. Orphan triangles of lanterns were replaced by modern lighting devices, and the rear bumper was cut through by reflectors - a touch that seems to be not too noticeable, but it has a beneficial effect on the overall image of Logan. And as always, there are few numbers: the length of the car has increased by 96 mm, the height has decreased by 8 mm, but the width, contrary to the common trend, has decreased - however, by a very insignificant 9 mm.
Interior, seating comfort and capacity
Interior design in a first-generation car can hardly be defined by any other definition than “poor, but clean.” Cheap-looking and tactile materials were in perfect harmony with the primitive design of the front panel. The new "Logan" plastic is still hard, but it does not irritate the eye - it seems to be of better quality than it actually is. The redesigned ideology of the center console also brings a tangible flavor of solidity to the interior. In general, if earlier the “Frenchman” outright lost in terms of interior decoration, say, to the Polo sedan, now he has every reason to almost claim victory in such a dispute.
In the photo above - Renault Logan 2014, below - sample 2004-2009.
And here is another joy: the horn button from the end of the steering column lever finally moved into the bowels of the hub. The keys of the front power windows took their place on the armrests. The control buttons for the rear windows, however, fit on the center console, but it's still better than at the feet of the inhabitants of the sofa, as it was before.
With the base extended by only 4 mm, the legroom has increased much more, especially in the back. This was largely facilitated by the design of the chairs, the backs of which are pressed through a couple of centimeters almost without resistance. The roof hung a little lower over the tops of the inhabitants of the sofa, but there is plenty of air over their heads. The same can be said about the width of the "gallery" - it has become narrower, but the three of us can still be accommodated there.
Some criticism is caused by the Togliatti assembly. The inner handle of the trunk lid, for example, fell off on the first attempt to use it for its intended purpose. However, it is good that it exists in principle.
Dynamics and economy
As before, Logan cannot boast of an abundance of power units. True, until 2013, modifications with a 4-speed automatic transmission were sold in Russia, but then they were removed from production. The new car is also not yet offered in a two-pedal version, although there are plans to release one.
Of the three engines, only 1.6-liter ones remained - a 1.4-liter engine (75 hp), not fitting into the AvtoVAZ engine line, rested in Bose. The "vosmiklapannik" barely noticeably lost power, but gained 10 N. m of torque, and this figure reaches its maximum value a little earlier than before. As a result, the maximum speed has decreased, but the efficiency indicators have improved slightly both when driving on the highway and in the urban cycle.
The more powerful 16-valve engine has not changed one iota, retaining all its characteristics.
Budget
The basic equipment of both generations is not striking in wealth. Nevertheless, with the only addition in the form of Isofix, its price unexpectedly dropped: for the most budgetary Logan, you will have to pay 355 thousand - six thousand less than before. And keep in mind - we are talking about a car with a 1.6-liter engine instead of a thoughtful 1.4-liter engine that accelerated the car to hundreds in 13 seconds. Metallic is not included in any of the fixed configurations, besides, it now costs 8,000 rubles instead of the previous 7,500 rubles.
The version with front electric windows and steering wheel height adjustment will now cost 408 thousand, although earlier it could be purchased for 399 thousand (although here, too, an adjustment should be made for a more powerful engine). The richest equipment has risen in price by 37 thousand, for which you will get anti-lock brakes, climate control instead of air conditioning, rear parking sensors, four airbags, a 40:60 folding sofa back, cruise control that is not really needed, and an audio system.
Safety
The old "Logan" in the distant 2009 on the tests "EuroNCAP" broke up very mediocre - it earned only three stars. The greatest danger lay in wait for the chest and feet of the driver. It can hardly be expected that in the new generation the safety of passenger bodies will be much higher. However, the expensive version has an anti-lock braking system, and for a surcharge you can even purchase a dynamic stabilization system. However, as there was one airbag in the database before, it remained. The front passenger receives an airbag only in the third-priority Privilege configuration, and the side ones go only in the top-end Lux-Privilege. Although this can be considered a step forward - when buying a first-generation Logan, even in the richest version of the Prestige, passenger and side airbags required an additional payment of 12 thousand rubles.
We decided
With the change of generations, the car clearly won. Without dropping its recognized advantages such as an energy-intensive suspension and a spacious interior, Renault acquired a completely modern appearance and much better interior decoration, acquired new options, and also added great ergonomics. And of course, one should separately rejoice at the fact that Logan has fallen in price.
You can meet more often than other cars on the roads of our country. This is not surprising, since only this manufacturer managed to achieve the richest possible configuration and optimal technical characteristics at the lowest cost. Today we will tell you what are the features of the 2nd generation Renault Logan, and what disadvantages this sedan hides.
Bright appearance is the key to success
Many remember the first generation of this model. It was distinguished by a minimal set of comfort options, the use of the most inexpensive materials, the simplest engines and gearboxes - in other words, this car had a whole list of disadvantages that could not be completely bypassed even after the release of the second restyling phase.
True, this car had one significant advantage, which is clearly visible even in the photo: with a minimum set of painted moldings, linings and other external elements, the first-phase sedan was distinguished by maximum simplicity and low cost of repair. There was nothing to break, as they say. This cannot be said about the latest version of the sedan: even in the photo it is clearly visible that the car has become purely urban and now does not allow bold forays into nature and into the mud.
Now the new Logan 2 of the first phase is decorated with numerous overlays, the quantity and quality of which increases along with the cost of the proposed configuration. At the same time, such details carry a purely decorative value, which can be clearly seen in the photo. The design of the attachments of Renault Logan 2 is aimed only at the visual perception of this car. In addition, the number of body parts that are painted in metallic has changed significantly here. This suggests that the equipment has now risen significantly in price.
The biggest admiration is the front end of Renault Logan 2 of the first phase, which on the official photos of the car looks much more rapid, stylish and unique than it was before. The forms of Renault Logan 2 generations have become smoother and more complex, and the lines that seem to flow into each other and form a single whole look very dynamic in the photo, and even when viewed live they can bring a lot of pleasure.
In addition, now the equipment includes linzovannaya optics, which, without exaggeration, greatly improves the appearance of Logan new and puts it on a par with sedans, which even officially belong to a higher, more prestigious and more expensive class. The rear lights of Renault Logan 2 new, unlike the previous phase, also have a completely different shape than it was before. In the photo, they resemble most modern European foreign cars on the market. In other words, now the car has become more urban, but the appearance makes many think, who up to this point have decided to buy a more expensive option.
Let's look inside
Of no less interest is the interior of the first phase of restyling, which, no doubt, has become much more stylish, catchy and expensive than it was before. Of course, there were some drawbacks: the new machine, thanks to the use of more expensive and high-quality materials, significantly increased in price, increasing the cost by about one and a half times compared to the first versions.
Sitting in Logan 2, you do not immediately understand that you got into a budget car. The high cost of materials, accurate docking of elements to each other, a more thoughtful layout of the instrument panel and center console make even the most sophisticated critic and hater of this car wonder.
First of all, the updated dashboard catches the eye in the photo of the interior of the first phase of the car. As far as those who were lucky enough to become owners of an older version of the car can remember, the instrument panel was very mediocrely trimmed with black oak plastic, the instruments did not abound with any additional functions. Here, however, a completely different picture is observed. In order to adequately appreciate the achievements of the Logan creators in the new body, it is worth taking another look at the photo of the new Renault Logan body and its interior. Everything here looks stylish, but simple enough that you can easily read the readings of instruments, on-board computer and signal and emergency lamps.
The steering wheel of the car in the updated phase is now finished with a more expensive and pleasant to the touch leatherette. The joints of the material are made perfectly even and sewn with a thread of a certain color using a seam of complex shape.
The side spokes in the richest and most expensive versions have radio and on-board computer control buttons. This privilege of more expensive cars allowed the driver of the second generation Renault Logan to experience comfort that was not available before.
The center console habitually includes an air conditioner and a multimedia system. The latter includes navigation, radio, video viewer and even a Bluetooth communication system. Despite the fact that this option is offered only for an additional fee, it quickly found its audience in the face of buyers of the most expensive versions of this machine.
The seat trim of Logan 2, judging by the photo of the interior, is made in the usual fabric style. There are enough adjustments and lateral support even for a tall person. At the same time, it is really pleasant to sit in the car, you do not feel that you will fall out of your seat at the next turn. At the same time, the color is chosen quite competently, and the picture of the interior, of course, only pleases the eye.
Color palette
The colors of the Logan new version are an updated line of metallics that can be found on most of the models of the French auto giant currently produced. At the same time, you can choose both a calmer, softer and classic color, as well as a more catchy stylish and youthful shade.
True, there is an exception to any rule, and as the base color, the manufacturer offered the “white ice” variation, which is not metallic and is of great interest to those who decide to purchase inexpensive sedan variations. This is the only color for which the dealer will not charge extra, so choosing white, logically, is a good way to save money.
"Light Basalt" is a metallic rendition of beige. It harmoniously looks on a car of almost any configuration, from the poorest to the expensive "top". At the same time, such a performance of the car harmoniously looks together with the chrome of the front end and distinguishes it favorably. Another "dim" representative of the Logan 2 palette is Platinum Gray. In fact, this is an ordinary silver variation, but this does not prevent it from remaining one of the most popular among fans of this car. Below you can see a photo of the new Renault Logan phase 2.
The name "black pearl" speaks for itself. Black metallic, which is offered for Logan 2, certainly makes the sedan with the “new” nameplate more winning, stylish and attractive to look at. Sometimes it may even seem that in front of you is not an ordinary budget foreign car, but a more expensive middle-class car.
Blue shades for the new Logan are represented by two variations: "Sapphire Blue" and "Azure Blue". The first is darker and more solid. It presents the Renault Logan 2 car in a less bright color and provides an opportunity to be less noticeable in the stream. A photo of Logan phase 2 can be easily found on the Internet. The second option, on the contrary, makes the sedan more stylish and catchy. The same can be said about the red version. According to critics, this particular shade is the most youthful and is perfect for girls.
Final verdict
The new Logan is a stylish and affordable family car. High-quality finishing materials and rich equipment put this sedan on a par with many competitors, and the economy and spaciousness of the cabin allow you to use the car for work and as a reliable and unpretentious family assistant.
Renault Logan has already become such a popular model that fans cannot decide which is better - a first or second generation car. Today we will try to contribute to resolving this dilemma, as we compare Renault Logan and Renault Logan 2, and identify the main differences between them.
Renault Logan is a popular French subcompact car designed specifically for emerging markets. Basically, production processes are concentrated in the Romanian branch of the company, and for the domestic market, the model is in Moscow and Togliatti.
The car was first talked about back in 1998, and it was originally planned as a compact family car, but then the plans changed several times, and in the end we saw just such a Logan. The model debuted in 2004 and immediately got into the TOP sold in Europe and the main reason for this was the low cost of the "Frenchman". It is worth noting that the car is based on the B0 bogie, which automatically makes it very reliable and strong.
Due to the fact that the developers were given the task of investing within the framework of 5,000 euros, the car's security system, which is its main drawback, suffered greatly. In addition to the usual sedan body, station wagon, van and pickup options were also offered. It is worth noting that the station wagon is in the greatest demand, while the pickup truck has not taken root much, especially when it comes to the Russian market.
In 2008, the model experienced the first large-scale restyling, as a result of which it received a new design and technical characteristics. As of 2011, Logan is among the top five best-selling in Russia.
In 2012, at the Paris auto show, the developers introduced the second generation model. The event caused a huge stir, and for the first few months, Logan became a real world market bestseller. The novelty received a completely different design and an upgraded line of engines. In 2016, the car was updated, which corrected all the shortcomings of the debut version. It is worth noting that in 2013 Logan was recognized as the best in the world market.
What's better? If we take, as the main criterion, the dynamics of sales, then this is rather Logan 1.
Appearance
From the point of view of the exterior, it is immediately noticeable that the cars belong to the same model range, but there are still a lot of differences between them and it is not difficult to trace how the evolution of the appearance of the French model took place. Younger motorists may be surprised by the lack of a traditional bird-shaped radiator grille in the debut version of Logan, but we immediately notice that earlier a conventional arrow-shaped grille was installed instead.
Also, if we draw parallels with Logan 2, then the debut modification had sharper corners and a very strict design. In the external design of the new Logan, the main focus was on volume and athleticism, but the developers did not forget about dynamism either.
No one should be surprised by the outcome of this local confrontation - the peremptory victory of the Logan 2 exterior.
Salon
It makes no sense to compare the interior of car models, between which there is a gap of as much as 7 years. It is obvious that during such a time technologies reach a completely new level, which has a positive effect on the interior decoration. The layout of the dashboard and steering wheel Logan 2 has moved from its predecessor, but only in the novelty, in place of the radio, you can see a high-tech touch screen, which makes it more attractive.
It is also easy to guess that the interior of Logan 2 is more spacious than Logan 1 - this is clearly evidenced by the dimensions of the cars (exact figures are given below). But the quality of the finish has not changed much, and, as before, is more practical.
Logan 2 wins here too.
Specifications
Today we have to make an unusual comparison, as we oppose one model, only different generations. The result is the following situation: Logan 1 2009 release and Logan 2 2016 release. Both cars are equipped with 1.6-liter gasoline engines and are built on the basis of front-wheel drive bogies. In addition, they are equipped with a 5-speed manual.
What about dimensions? How much have the dimensions of the Logan receiver changed? The body of Logan 2 is 96 mm longer than Logan 1, but at the same time 17 mm lower than it. As for the size of the wheelbase, it is 4 mm longer in the second generation of the French model - 2634 mm / 2630 mm. The ground clearance for both versions of Logan is the same - 155 mm. Also, the new Logan has become 126 kg heavier than its predecessor - 1106 kg / 980 kg. The luggage capacity indicator is the same - 510 liters. Both Logan 1 and Logan 2 are equipped with the same 15-inch wheels.
Despite the same volume, the engine is more powerful in the debut version of the "Frenchman" - 90/82 horsepower. Naturally, this also affected the dynamics of cars. To disperse Logan 1 from zero to hundreds, it takes 11.5 s, which is 0.4 s faster than Logan 2. However, the average is less than just the latest version - 7.2 l / 7.3 l.
Price
In 2009, Renault Logan on the Russian market could be bought for about 450 thousand rubles. Today for the year will have to lay out 480 thousand rubles. If we count at the dollar rate, then the difference is crazy, and it is surprising that the more equipped and advanced Logan 2 is only 30 thousand rubles more expensive than Logan 1.
Initially, the inexpensive Renault model was designed as a budget car for emerging markets, Eastern Europe, and the CIS. Logan 2 is positioned as a social model, it is distinguished by its simplicity of design, reasonable prices, and reliability. Various configurations allow you to choose price options with minimal comfort, a much larger set of equipment. These qualities determined the popularity of the model, which is one of the best-selling foreign cars on the Russian market (up to 4% of total sales).
A radical modernization of the machine was carried out in 2010. After that, the model received the factory name Logan phase 2. In Russian production, the VAZ Kalina model becomes its main competitor. Both cars belong to class "B", prices, equipment, drive, technical characteristics of the phase are similar. Therefore, models can be considered in comparison.
Competitiveness, technical features of the upgraded model
Starting from the first generation, all versions of the car borrow mechanisms, large components, interior elements from other Renault models. Only the bodywork is original. Logan 2 was no exception, Kalina is also equipped with an original body. The main body of Logan 2 was a sedan, traditional in Russia, "Kalina" in the second generation received a hatchback body. The wagon body of the second Renault, which received the prefix "MSV", is less popular. The MSV model shows less drive, so MSV cars do not sell out as quickly.
The exterior of Renault Logan 2 after modernization has become solid, stylish. There were enlarged headlights, new outlines of the taillights, trunk. The car is decorated with a chrome trim for a false radiator, the interior has been improved in quality, it has more drive.
Kalina is friendlier in design, but many experts find it similar to such models as the Audi A3, Volkswagen Golf. The interior of the VAZ model, with external attractiveness (original dashboard, large buttons, convenient steering column switches), spoils the widespread use of cheap plastic. Many believe that the appearance of Kalina is preferable for a female audience.
The power units of competitors are close in parameters. Renault Logan 2 uses an eight-valve gasoline aspirated engine (1.4 l, 75 hp) as the main engine. Kalina with the main engine is somewhat more powerful (1.6 liters, 81 hp). Therefore, the average fuel consumption is more - 7.8 l / 100 km versus 6.9 l / 100 km for the second Renault.
The choice of engines Logan 2 surpasses the Russian model. Versions with two gasoline engines (1.4 l, 1.6 l), diesel (1.5 l), and a variant with a gas-gasoline installation went on sale. Kalina offered only two petrol engines (1.4 l, 1.6 l).
Security Options
In the second generation of Renault, European safety requirements were imposed on the car. The European safety test EuroNCAP Logna 2 passed with a good result for a budget car - a three-star rating. The frontal test gave eight points, the side impact - 11. With a maximum score of 16 points, the same results were shown by testing the second generation by the Autoreview newspaper. Similar results were shown by Logan 2 in the MSV version.
Kalina did not pass the official European test, only factory tests of the production model were carried out in the presence of journalists. Testing of the Russian model showed average results for the body, unsatisfactory for the driver's dummy. A collision of a car threatens the driver, passengers, at best, with a severe concussion, leg fractures. Therefore, in terms of security, 2 unconditionally.
Car in motion, test results, assessments of journalists, experts
Already the first test drives of the second Renault showed that in motion the car differs little from the first generation. Salon has not changed in size, remained spacious. The journalists who conducted the checks note the non-standard control of the air ducts, the convenient opening of the glove box. Claims are caused by stove regulators, inconveniently placed behind the gear lever.
A test drive for dynamics, carried out in a loaded base car, gave unsatisfactory results. Engine power is not enough to overtake long columns, even a long truck detour turns into an extreme adventure. The second Renault shows the best results in dynamic test drives of a powerful version with one driver. In this version, the car is more mobile, picks up speed better, allows risky overtaking.
Since the capabilities of a budget car are limited, off-road test drives were not carried out, but the car feels good on country roads. The increased clearance for Russia allows you not to be afraid of deep potholes, ruts, and shallow dirt.
A long operational test drive revealed discrepancies between the actual fuel consumption and the declared figures. The discrepancy reaches a whole liter of gasoline (in uniform motion, without standing in traffic jams). Although such indicators may relate only to the features of the tested machine.
Estimates of the owners of the upgraded model
The assessment of the second Renault as a reliable, unpretentious car is unanimous. The owners are satisfied with the size of the spacious interior, good suspension, and a variety of equipment. The ergonomics of the driver's seat, visibility, comfortable rear row seats are well appreciated.
In the management of the disadvantage of Logan 2, the gas pedal is too tight. On the contrary, the brake pedal is described as too light - pressing the pedal does not require effort, although there are no complaints about the brake system.
According to the technical characteristics, motorists do not see much difference between Logan 2 and the first generation of the car. Many shortcomings of the model remained the same:
- significant noise;
- excessive oil consumption (for sixteen-valve engines);
- premature replacement of the connecting rod and piston group;
- fragile plastic parts;
- problems with the rear washer hose.
Many replacement parts are complicated, for example, to replace the air conditioning belt, you need to partially dismantle the engine.
Renault Logan 2 phase (after 2008) is a car that needs no introduction. In it, if not at the wheel, then in the passenger seat, probably every second resident of the city was sitting. And it would seem that everything in this machine is known. But only until it comes to buying it in the secondary market. And here the questions begin, when it breaks, what breaks, how much it will cost. Now you will know the answers to these questions.
We will talk about Renault Logan 2013 release with a mileage of 70 thousand kilometers. The seller wants 310 thousand rubles for the car. As for the purchase of a new car, the second generation of the model with a 1.6 liter engine is on sale. The car has become prettier, more comfortable and functional inside.
General impression
It is difficult to talk about general impressions, because. everyone has their own. In short, Renault Logan 2 phases have average visibility, very small side mirrors, uncomfortable seats and a weak, “strangled” engine. An obvious plus is the suspension, which forgives virtually any road adversity.
There is no feeling of any comfort, compared with classmates. The operation of the gearbox and engine, landing, finishing materials, etc. - all this is at a very average level. Although, I must say, the car has no crickets. Among the same classmates with passing mileage is a rarity.
Owners of Logans of the 1st generation are trying to justify many of the shortcomings and disadvantages by the low price of ownership, they say, "show indulgence, this is a budget car." Yes, there is truth in this. But there are fundamental things that cannot be forgiven. The first is design. Yet some of the competitors interior looks much nicer. The second is the location of the buttons. They seem to be made not for people, and it is difficult to get used to them.
But let's turn to the technical side of the issue and find out the weaknesses of the Renault Logan 2 phase.
Engine
For all the years of work, service center specialists most often note such major engine sores as a leak in the front crankshaft oil seal, the problem begins to appear at a range of 40 to 100 thousand kilometers, and failure of the ignition coil. It does not withstand temperature extremes, cracks over time, and the engine starts to triple.
In problems with starting the engine, the fuel filter is also to blame. Well, or, as many write on the Internet, its absence. Moreover, he was in the first phase of Logan. Only the owners complained about its unfortunate location and the French during restyling integrated it into the fuel pump. The decision is controversial, because. from now on, the part is changed only in the assembly. You need to carefully monitor the timing belt.
Box
According to the same service center specialists, the most common sore found on the second Logan is oil leakage from the oil seal of the left drive of a mechanical transmission. Otherwise, there are no complaints about the gearbox. Or almost none. On the Internet, only the lazy did not write about the reverse gear, which switches with a characteristic crunch. It's all about the lack of synchronization. To avoid it, you need to squeeze the clutch, wait 2 seconds and “stick” the gear. Then the torque from the engine will have time to synchronize with the torque on the box.
Suspension
During operation, such a problem arises as the failure of ball bearings and silent blocks of the front levers. These are the main points that mechanics face. And there is practically nothing to add. Suspension Renault Logan 2 phase - indeed, a strong point! And, even if something breaks, the availability and prices of spare parts offset the unpleasant effect. True, there is one sore subject - uneven wear of the brake pads. But it depends more on the driving style, the origin of the spare parts and who installed them and with what hands.
Electrician
The most common sore is a broken horn. Due to poor soldering during operation, the contact departs. It is treated by replacing the steering column switch.
household sores
There are more than a dozen angry reviews on the Internet for household sores of Renault Logan Phase 2. For example, about incomprehensibly falling out foglights. Yes, it happens that they crack, but more often in winter, when you park in a snowdrift in a “hot” car. And the often mentioned problem with breaking off the headlight mount is hardly possible without physical impact.
Logan also has other weaknesses. The most common are cracking of the paintwork of the gutters of the rear fenders and the roof (this is a factory defect), and the formation of chips on the rear fenders (appear during off-road driving).
There are many cons. But there is also a pleasant moment. Most Renault Logan sores can be repaired in a garage. The car is simple, and, apart from some work that requires special tools, it is serviced elementarily.
If we talk about love or dislike for Renault Logan Phase 2, then the story is twofold. It's all about the people who buy it. They can be safely divided into 2 contingents: the first are those who did not have enough money for something else, and they took Logan out of hopelessness, and the second - who, on the contrary, approached the choice of a car as rationally as possible and counted every ruble.
Yes, the car has many flaws. But they all overlap with the very “indestructibility” that everyone is talking about. The only thing that you need to see before buying is who was the previous owner of the car. Of course, if it was a taxi company, then the car must be checked especially carefully.
