Time is running. Almost six years have passed since we took a test drive of the then new 2 generation Kia Ceed, and now it's time to write a review of a used car. Let's deal with its weaknesses and the nuances of checking it before buying.
We did not find serious flaws in the new Kia Ceed. Let's see how used options behave
Then the newcomer pleased with the chassis, which has finally changed for the better, a more high-torque engine and, of course, a wide range of additional options. Some active drivers managed to roll on the second generation Kia Ceed more than 200,000 km, and employees of taxi companies even more. This, perhaps, is enough to reveal the weaknesses of the model. As it turned out, the main part of the costs is the chassis and steering, the engine and its attachments require attention a little less often, but otherwise the owners are worried about the little things that, as outbids like to “drip in the ear”, do not affect speed.
On the test car during the trip, for no apparent reason, the plug of the hole for the headlight washer disappeared. With a hole in the bumper, Ceed was no longer so photogenic
Always like new
In general, with the release of the second generation, motorists for the first time appreciated the Kia Ceed in terms of aesthetics. Over time and with the kilometers traveled, the appearance no longer seems so attractive, but the used Ceed does not turn into a frank trash can, like many Chinese cars. Align the body gaps a little, polish the headlights, remove chips and “saffron milk mushrooms” and a car with a mileage of 100 tkm outwardly approaches the state of a new car.
Many owners complain about body gaps shifting over time. On the test car, such flaws were not noticed.
Turning to weaknesses, it is worth noting that there were many warranty replacements. Owners' biggest annoyance was caused by scratches on the side windows, which forced dealers to replace them along with the seals, which, in general, are the culprit of what is happening. A considerable number of appeals provoked the creaking of the trapeze wipers. If the rubbing elements are not lubricated in time, then the system “wedges” in one of the positions and further - only the replacement of the entire assembly.
These stripes on the windows do not at all indicate the mileage. Scratches are left by a negligent sealant
The owners of Kia Ceed JD noticed corrosion only on the fifth door. Characteristic swellings often also occurred during the warranty period, so a repainted trunk lid does not always mean a bad past. One way or another, this is just one door, and not several body panels, like, for example, at.
The windshield wiper mechanism should be lubricated periodically, otherwise there will be a creak first, and then jamming
Familiar ruler
Under the hood of Kia Ceed, you can see the power units G4FA (1.4), G4FG (1.6), familiar to us from the Kia Rio and Hyundai Solaris models, but with inlet and outlet phase change clutches. Accordingly, the list of weaknesses and malfunctions is almost the same. Structurally, these motors are like two drops of water and they are distinguished only by the difference in volume, achieved by changing the piston stroke.
Unlike Solaris, Kia Ceed has phase shifters on both shafts. This is where the differences end.
Even in truly harsh Russian conditions, Ceed engines take care of much more than the resource declared by the manufacturer of 180 thousand km without serious investments, however, a number of not the cheapest manipulations will have to be planned at the turn of 100 thousand km and this should be taken into account when First of all, this concerns the replacement of the kit a chain that is already decently stretched by this run. And, since you have removed the valve cover, then at the same time adjust the valve clearances. The procedure is not simple, but the hassle will decrease decently in the future.
About once every 100 thousand km Ceed requires a chain replacement and valve clearance adjustment
What the owners of Kia Ceed really like to do is cut out the “catalyst” from it, because together with the new “brains” firmware, this adds a dozen “horses” to the existing ones. A regular part rarely reaches the first hundred thousand kilometers without destroying the "ceramics", and this, as you know, endangers the piston group. The crumbs sucked into the combustion chamber will kill the patient with no chance of survival. It is not worth it to reach the first errors in the efficiency of the exhaust gas converter. They removed the organ, flashed it under Euro2 and sleep peacefully. Doctors say that the appendix in the intestines is useless, especially with our food.
After the first "hundred", the catalyst, as a rule, begins to break down, which poses a real threat to the piston group
The rest will only bother the little things. For example, a whistle when the engine is running means that the drive belt tensioner has been asked to go to the dump. Installing the original part is akin to walking on a rake - it will still make noise again.
Vibration on the body when the engine is running usually means that its right hydraulic support has already leaked out
seize the moment
Unlike Solaris (Rio), there are no problems with turning on the third gear in Ceed with manual transmission, but the oil seals flow unexpectedly and painfully. The most unpleasant thing is the leakage of oil through the seals of the input shaft of the box. We missed the moment and, together with the oil seal, we will have to replace the entire clutch basket, which will undoubtedly begin to slip and “burn”. Without such "sticks in the wheels" from the side of the box, new clutches live for a long time - 150-200 tkm.
it is better to eliminate the leakage of the manual transmission oil seal until the clutch disc burns out
The six-speed "automatic" of good bloodlines and serious weaknesses he has. Change the oil periodically and there will be no breakdowns. In the event of "kicks" when switching to a flashing of the TCM unit to the dealer, the new program solves the problem, if not forever, then for a long time. It is better to refuse to buy a used Ceed with “twitches”, because it is not known how long the owner traveled with this problem, because no one guarantees that irreversible processes have already begun in the automatic transmission.
The automatic transmission hardware does not raise questions for Kia Ceed, but the factory software is imperfect - periodic “brain flashing” is required
Confident McPherson and a modest multi-link
The first in the traditional chassis of the Kia Ceed JD are traditionally molted and steering tips. Some usually do not even reach 50 thousand km, others - up to 80. Wheel bearings "live" for about 100 tkm and, in the event of a hum, go to rest along with the entire hub, which makes their replacement not as cheap as it might seem before. Ball front levers live a very long time, but on condition that it is possible to keep the anther intact. Periodic lubrication with silicone will help with this. The procedure will be especially useful for the silent blocks of the rear multi-link, because even for neat riders up to 150 thousand km, the rubber bands already crack and sag in order and, interestingly, they absolutely do not annoy with sounds. So let's say - a hidden weak spot.
The Ceed JD rear suspension requires careful driving and occasional attention. Silent blocks of levers did not differ in durability
The survivability of the shock absorbers was impressive, but of course a lot depends on who is behind the wheel. Those who are not friends with their heads manage to destroy vibration dampers by 50 thousand km, however, cases of 200 thousand km run on native parts are not uncommon.
In the event of a hum and play of the hub bearing, the entire assembly will have to be replaced
Kia Ceed steering rack problems were mostly under warranty. If the service book is already in the trash, and the “sore” is pressed, then for the first time a banal tightening will save you from sounds, but then you will have to solve the problem like a man - with removal and analysis. By and large, you need to change the worn-out plastic sleeve (565213X000), the play appears due to its fleeting wear. However, the steering assembly is dismantled with the removal of the subframe, which means that it will not be superfluous to replace the stabilizer bushings. Moreover, such an investment in the future costs mere pennies.
The same bushing, due to the wear of which the rail “knocks on the ears”
Losing contact
The electrical situation is a little worse. I remember back on the test Ceed JD with parking sensors and a rear camera, I had to turn it back with the door half open until the sensors frantically hysteria in the absence of obstacles, and the screen after a 10-minute trip in the rain simply gave out a “dirty” spot on the screen. So it is quite expected that in everyday use Ceed periodically “loses contact” somewhere.
Thus, the heating filaments of the front seats are melted. Don't even think about leaning on the pillows with your knees
In practice, parking sensors did indeed fail, the standard antenna also “died”, however, the most popular weak point in the Ceed electrics are ABS sensors - they go to another world one by one, sometimes until everything is updated. In general, if the brake pedal suddenly jumped for no reason during deceleration, and the corresponding icon on the dashboard lit up, then we read the errors and change the desired sensor, as a rule, the rear right one is updated first.
Some "lucky" owners have learned how to change ABS sensors with their eyes closed
The most expensive repair will be if you oversleep the revocable campaign to replace the fuel pump. An electric motor is not cheap, it is not easy to change. Another thing is if the heater fan makes noise, it can whistle until the owner's patience runs out.
The "whistling" of the heater fan does not bear any consequences for the owner, except for psychological ones.
Flickering or complete failure of daytime running lights dealers eliminate by replacing the entire headlight assembly. As long as the manufacturer's warranty obligations are working, this method looks quite attractive, there is even a chance that the new optics will not “sweat”. If there are none, then in order to avoid total costs, you will have to contact an electrician or solder the DRL contacts yourself. As practice has shown, many owners of Kia Ceed know how to work with their hands.
Missing daytime running lights means replacing the headlight unit at the dealer, or soldering the contacts at the electrician
Stuffing for those who are not afraid of problems
Those who choose a fatter package for themselves will have to take into account some electric costs and be patient, because the unexpected failure of comfort systems causes the owner more inconvenience than the malfunction of those parts. The “black list” of options noticed in an unexpected breakdown included the Smart Key keyless entry system with sensor failure, heated seats with burnt threads, and a “multi-steering wheel” with a slip ring malfunction.
The more complete the equipment, the more functions will be lost in the event of a breakdown of the slip ring of the steering column
"Kozhzam" in expensive trim levels is also short-lived, it bursts at the folds even at low runs. The rag interior in cheaper versions retains its original appearance longer and requires only periodic elimination of stains after wet clothes. The materials of the remaining elements of the interior cannot be called expensive and soft either - the class is not the same, but there were few sources of creaking in the cabin. And in general, if we dismiss the case of spontaneous lowering of the driver's seat, then the Ceed interior is unpretentious and comfortable.
Fabric interior turned out to be more durable, but easily soiled
Kia Ceed JD with mileage of 100,000 km
Almost all Kia Ceed JDs we examined with mileage close to 100,000 km had hard deposits under the valve cover. And this, of course, is connected with the regulations, which, after buying a car, will have to be halved, otherwise the motor may simply not reach the next such milestone. Otherwise, there are no questions either to the motor or to the box. But in the suspension, as a rule, something is sure to knock, and basically, these are either “molts” or steering tips - in general, a trifle.
In the cabin, by 100,000 km, the steering wheel is decently overwritten, whether it be leather or even plastic, but in general, after a more or less careful owner, the car looks relatively fresh, if not almost new.
After 100 thousand km, the steering wheel practically loses its original appearance
A little strange, but among the used cars we checked, there were many Seeds after serious accidents. It is difficult to say what this is connected with, perhaps it was we who “luckily” spent time looking at the beating. With station wagons, the situation is better - people in years still drive more carefully.
Salon Kia Ceed JD retains its original appearance for a long time
Should I buy Kia Ceed 2 generations
As you probably already understood, we have no serious reasons to dissuade you from any engine, gearbox, and even more so from the very fact of buying a model. Ceed JD in any version will be almost equally reliable, but with a specific list of weaknesses. Of course, the priority is the most "fresh" copies with low mileage. Just a gift to you will be a car that has recently changed the chain and removed the "catalyst" - this will save you from unnecessary expensive trouble. It remains only to monitor the chassis and electronics, and the fewer options there are in the car, the less time and money you will spend on diagnostics and repairs.
This, at first glance, self-made plate bears a “Russian” VIN number. Location - B-pillar on the right
Forensic markings
Like many cars manufactured by Avtotor, the VIN number plate is located on the right central pillar. If you see symbols on it that seem to have been knocked out with a screwdriver, then most likely it is not fake. In this regard, be sure to check the “Korean” VIN, which is “hidden” under the passenger front seat, and the main Russian number on the right front side member. Everything should be there, as it should be - even symbols, factory color. Duplicate plates are located under the windshield and on the left B-pillar in the form of a sticker. The Kia Ceed engine number is located on the flange, next to the gearbox, access to it is absolutely free.
Be sure to check the "Korean" VIN (on the left in the TCP, under the right front seat in the car). Much harder to fake
Competitors
There are many platform models among the rivals of Kia Ceed JD: Kia Cerato, Hyundai i30, Hyundai Elantra. If you don’t like the facelessness of the “Koreans”, then you can consider a more convenient, but expensive to maintain, typical balanced “German” Volkswagen Golf, family, GM Opel Astra and “mechanics”, or add a little and consider” Japanese" in the form or Toyota Corolla.
Kia cee "d 2006–2012 onwards
Kia cee "d 2006–2012 onwards
Kia cee "d 2006–2012 onwards
The premiere of the model took place in the fall of 2006 at the Paris Motor Show. Some fans of the car even remember its exact release date - September 28th. European sales of Kia cee'd began at the end of the same year. Moreover, cars for the European market were assembled in the Slovak city of Zilina. First debuted a five-door hatchback. In the summer of 2007, the SW wagon appeared, and the dynamic three-door pro_cee'd started in the fall. Despite the fact that the range of modifications did not include a sedan traditionally in demand in Russia, the model was in high demand with us. This was facilitated by the design of the model, tailored according to European standards, good driving performance, economical and powerful engines, as well as a competitive price.
Russian dealers began to sell Kia cee'd a little after the start of European sales, and the assembly of cars was established in Kaliningrad. Russian "Seeds" were produced in several trim levels. The initial version of Attract included ABS with brake force distribution system, six airbags, an immobilizer with an on-board computer and a CD / MP3 radio. The LX Basic version was supplemented by remote closing / opening doors and dynamic stabilization. The LX variant included electric front windows and heated mirrors and an anti-theft system. The EX trim had air conditioning, 16-inch wheels, fog lights, power rear windows, and leather-trimmed steering wheel, gear knobs, and parking brake. And the TX added a heated windshield and seats, climate control, 17-inch alloy wheels, parking sensors and a rain sensor.
Engine
Kia сee'd was equipped with three petrol engines of 1.4 l (109 hp), 1.6 l (122 hp) and 2.0 l (143 hp), as well as a pair of turbodiesels 1.6 l (115 hp) and 2.0 l (140 hp). Officially, only gasoline modifications were sold in Russia. Engines with a volume of 1.4 and 1.6 liters of the Gamma series are the most massive. They are close in design, but, unfortunately, they cannot boast of an acceptable resource - by 150 thousand km, repairs are required with the replacement of piston rings and a set of connecting rod and main bearings (4000 rubles). Officials will take another 15,000 rubles for work. Engines are also sensitive to fuel and oil quality. From bad gasoline, you will periodically have to change spark plugs and ignition coils, oxygen sensors (3990 rubles) and mass air flow (4800 rubles). And by 100 thousand km, the neutralizer may also die (35,000 rubles). Therefore, it is recommended every 30-40 thousand km to clean the injection system (2000 rubles) and at the same time the throttle assembly.
The motors are equipped with a chain in the drive of the gas distribution mechanism, which stretches to 100 thousand km. With the replacement of the chain, it is better not to pull. Otherwise, it can jump a couple of teeth, and then the valves will meet the pistons. Repair will result in 50,000 rubles. Instead of conventional gaskets, engines use a sealant that dries out after four to five years. However, in addition to leaks from under the valve cover or front timing cover, oil can also leak through the crankshaft rear oil seal. And by 150 thousand km it breaks through the cylinder head gasket (2300 rubles).
Against this backdrop, the good old 2.0L Beta engine with a cast-iron block seems to be a model of durability. Its resource is 250-350 thousand km. True, you will have to update the timing belt every 60 thousand km (from 2500 rubles) and monitor the coolant temperature sensor, due to a malfunction of which the engine can warm up in traffic jams.
Transmission
Not everything is smooth with gearboxes. Contrary to tradition, the manual gearbox has problems - by 130 thousand kilometers, the gear rims of the gear, the synchronizer clutch and the third gear blocking ring wear out. So, if the box began to crackle and rest when shifting gears, this usually happens at 110-140 thousand kilometers, prepare about 15,000 rubles. for repairs. It’s good if the clutch lasts until this time - after all, it makes no sense to pay for the same work twice. The assembly is usually replaced complete with a basket (2000 rubles), a clutch driven disk (1900 rubles) and a release bearing (650 rubles). The work will cost another 3,000 rubles.
Periodically, it is necessary to monitor the condition of the CV joint anthers - as a rule, by 50 thousand km they begin to poison the lubricant. It’s better not to save on rubber covers (900 rubles each), otherwise you will have to part with 16,500 rubles, which you will be asked for for the axle shaft assembly with external and internal hinges. Strange, but an interchangeable and similar unit from the Hyundai Elantra costs almost half as much.
The A4CF1 automatic transmission traces its lineage to a similar Mitsubishi F4A41 unit. If every 60–80 thousand km the transmission oil is updated, the box will “run” 250 thousand km before the overhaul. True, on the "machines" of the first years of production there were problems with the output shaft.
Chassis and body
In the fully independent suspension of Kia cee'd, shock absorbers were considered a weak link, both front (3,500 rubles each) and rear (4,200 rubles each), which sometimes began to knock at 20 thousand km. At first they were changed along with the front stabilizer struts (350 rubles each). But after 2009, the shock absorbers were modernized, significantly increasing their resource. Hub bearings are also not very durable - front (700 rubles each) and rear (3000 rubles each complete with a hub) withstand an average of 50 thousand km.
Body metal does not give up corrosion for a long time. But the paintwork is delicate, like most "Koreans" - chips and scratches appear easily, and the varnish falls off in pieces from plastic parts. The lower edges of the doors and the support cups of the suspension springs on the first cars quickly succumbed to rust. On station wagons, after a couple of years, railings begin to corrode. And on all modifications, at the age of four or five years, the paint swells under the lining of the trunk lid.
Modifications
Externally, the stylish three-door hatchback pro_cee’d is perceived as more compact and more dynamic than the five-door. Although in reality it is slightly longer and lower. Moreover, both modifications do not have a single common body element. Fenders, doors, headlights and taillights, as well as the design of the fifth door, are different for hatchbacks. But with the range of engines, the situation is different - the three-door was equipped with a full line of gasoline engines with a volume of 1.4 liters (109 hp), 1.6 liters (122 hp) and 2.0 liters (143 hp) , which were combined with both a manual transmission and an automatic one.
The practical and harmonious see’d SW station wagon was surprisingly in high demand in our market - it now accounts for about a quarter of all used first-generation Kia see’d presented in our country. But usually in Russia, cars with this type of body are sold neither shaky nor rolls. The station wagon is expectedly larger than hatchbacks - 220-240 mm longer and 40-73 mm higher. But thanks to good design, for example, the negative angle of inclination of the rear pillars, see'd SW looks no less stylish and proportionate than hatchbacks. In general, the language does not dare to call it a barn. And in technical terms, according to the engines and gearboxes used, all three modifications are identical.
Kia cee "d SW
restyling
In 2009, Kia сee'd underwent a restyling, as a result of which it began to look fresher and more respectable thanks to a modified chrome grille, a memorable headlight cut and fashionable dot segments of brake lights. Significantly updated car and inside. Interior designers redrawn the center console, and did not disregard the instrument panel. Ceiling handles were equipped with a microlift, and all power windows were equipped with an automatic opening-closing function. There are also technical changes - the base 1.4-liter gasoline engine began to produce 90 hp. instead of the previous 109, and the 1.6-liter added up to 126 hp. The 1.6 liter turbodiesel (115 hp) has got two more versions: 90 and 128 hp.
editor:- Despite the European appearance, Kia сee’d remained a purebred “Korean” with local habits and mentality. As for durability, in this nomination it is still noticeably inferior to German and Japanese classmates. Although there are positive developments in this direction, of course, there are. But if you want to avoid unplanned expenses, we recommend a modification with a 2-liter gasoline engine and an automatic transmission. And then you definitely won't go wrong. Checked!
05.02.2018
KiaCeed one of the most popular cars in the C-class segment. The appearance of this model in the family of the Korean manufacturer not only marked a new era in the history of the company, but also allowed it to take a leading position in many automotive markets around the world. Kia is one of the few car manufacturers that, by releasing budget cars, is trying to please consumers of different categories - young people, older drivers and the fairer sex. Probably, thanks to this, Kia Ceed is not only in steady demand among motorists, but is a bestseller in the domestic market.
Specifications Kia Ceed
Brand and body type: C - hatchback, station wagon (SW);
Body dimensions (L x W x H), mm - 4260 x 1790 x 1480 | 4490 x 1790 x 1525;
Wheelbase, mm - 2650;
Ground clearance, mm - 150;
Tire size - 195/65 R15, 205/55 R16;
Fuel tank volume, l - 53;
Curb weight, kg - 1263, 1367;
Gross weight, kg - 1710, 1820;
Trunk capacity, l - 340 (1300), 534 (1664);
Options - Classic, Comfort, Luxe, Premium, Prestige.
Common sores and weaknesses of Kia Ceed
Problem areas of the body:
Paintwork- traditionally for Korean-made budget cars, the varnish and paint are quite soft, because of this, even after a couple of years of operation, a large number of scratches and chips appear in the front of the body. The owners of the first Seeds (2006-2008) clutched their heads, finding peeling varnish from the front bumper and B-pillars after a couple of years of operation. Met and "sandblast" rapids. Fortunately, the manufacturer gave a 5-year warranty on the body and eliminated such defects for free.
body iron- despite the fact that the metal of the Kia Ceed body is rather thin, it is not prone to corrosion, even in places where the paint is chipped, the iron does not oxidize for a long time. But, there are still a couple of weaknesses in the body. After winter, pockets of corrosion appear on the trunk lid. The reason - due to the dense fit of the door, at the junction, the paint is wiped off to the metal. Over time, the thresholds, the metal around the brake light and the lining above the license plate may also begin to rust. The problem is solved by pasting problem areas with a protective film.
Optics– often in wet weather or after washing, condensation forms in the headlights, to solve the problem, it is necessary to replace the ventilation covers. In the rear optics, the reflector of the additional brake light cracks over time (you can prevent the problem by installing an additional gasket).
Electrician– possible failure of shock and ambient temperature sensors. The reason is that the contacts rot due to the lack of a protective cover on the electrical connectors.
Seals- after 4-5 years of operation, the hood seals tan, and then collapse, it is possible to extend their service life, but for this it is necessary to periodically lubricate them with silicone grease. Also, attention is required to the external glass seals on the front doors - they bend into a groove and get stuck there.
windshield washer- on pre-styling cars (until 2009) it was not famous for its reliability - often the brushes manage to swing dry and only after that the liquid enters. Reasons - the motor creates a weak pressure, the reverse valve is weakened, the system is not tight, the nozzles are clogged. Failures in the electronics are also possible - failure of the mode switch or flow distributor. After restyling, the manufacturer eliminated all the shortcomings.
Power units and their disadvantages
1.4 and 1.6 - despite the fact that gasoline engines belong to the fairly recent Gamma series (produced since 2007), their main weaknesses are already well known to the service station masters, therefore, in case of any trouble, there will be no problems with restoring the unit's performance. Both motors are assembled on the same cylinder block and differ only in a crankshaft with an increased piston stroke. Otherwise, the power units are identical, in addition to technical similarities, they have common weaknesses and shortcomings.
The engines use a timing chain drive, according to the manufacturer, the drive does not need maintenance and serves for the declared engine life - at least 180,000 km. However, on a car with a mileage of over 100,000 km, it is advisable to check the condition of the chain at each MOT, since operating experience has shown that the chain needs to be replaced after 120-150 thousand km, and its tensioner, if the engine is not serviced in time, may ask for replacement even earlier. Symptoms - rumble when starting a cold engine, diesel rumble. Ignoring the problem, as a rule, leads to a chain jump and a meeting of valves with pistons. On both engines, every 95,000 km, valve clearances must be adjusted by replacing pushers - there are no hydraulic compensators. Despite the fact that this procedure is not cheap, it should not be neglected, since in the future it can provoke problems in the form of increased noise, tripling, burnouts, etc.
Common faults:
Extraneous noise from a cold engine- in 90% of cases, the culprit of the timing, the reason may also be in improperly adjusted valves (with such a problem, the car could leave the factory), clicking sounds (chirring) can make nozzles - an integral part of their work. In any case, it is better to contact the service for diagnostics.
Oil leaks- due to the fact that the manufacturer used a sealant instead of gaskets, by 100,000 km the first oily smudges appear on the motor. By 150,000 km, the valve cover gasket breaks through and it begins to let oil through - sometimes the broaching of the fixing bolts helps to fix the problem.
Crankshaft oil seal- starts to flow closer to 100,000 km.
Unstable engine operation- most often the culprit of this ailment is severe contamination of the throttle and spark plugs. If flushing the damper and replacing the spark plugs does not give the desired result, you will have to change the ECU firmware to a more recent one.
Vibrations at medium speeds (2000-3000)- the cause has not been identified. Officials claim that this trouble is a feature of the engines - it enters into resonance due to the peculiar design of the mount. The solution to the problem is to spin the engine up to the cutoff and release the gas pedal, if this does not help, check the condition of the engine mounts.
Whistling- the culprit, the drive belt tensioner.
Piston rings and crankshaft liners- require replacement on a run of 150-200 thousand km.
Fuel- with frequent use of low-quality gasoline, the service life of candles, ignition coils, oxygen sensor and mass air flow is significantly reduced. For the same reason, by 100,000 km, the converter may also become unusable.
Resource- depending on the operating conditions and the quality of service, the power unit will last 200-300 thousand km. There is an opinion that the motor is not repairable, since boring for the repair size is not provided. However, in club services there are specialists who have adapted to sleeve the cylinder block.
Motor 2.0 in terms of reliability, it looks more preferable than less powerful engines. Power unit G4GC ( Beta II series) is equipped with a variable valve timing system on the CVVT intake shaft, but does not have hydraulic lifters, therefore, when characteristic knocks appear, it is recommended to adjust the valve clearances. Unlike weaker motors, a timing belt drive is installed here; it is recommended to change the belt with rollers every 60,000 kilometers. There are owners who drive more than 100,000 km on one belt, but such savings can result in expensive engine repairs.
Faults:
Jerks during acceleration and deceleration- most often the problem is caused by a malfunction of the ignition coils. If replacing the coils does not solve the problem, you need to change the BB wires and candles.
Exhaust system- over time, the gasket installed between the catalyst and the resonator burns out, because of this, a Check Engine error appears on the instrument panel.
coolant temperature sensor- fails ahead of schedule, so you need to monitor it, since if it malfunctions, there is a risk of overheating the engine.
Noisy operation (diesel) and vibrations- a feature of this motor.
RPM hang- the problem is solved by flashing the engine control unit.
Resource- 250-350 thousand km.
Diesel engines:
Despite the fact that diesel power units are slightly more economical than gasoline ones, they have not received mass distribution in our market, and there are reasons for this. First, the high cost of maintenance. Secondly, a capricious fuel system that does not digest the quality of our fuel well, as a result, expensive repairs have to be done at a mileage of less than 100,000 km (injectors, high-pressure fuel pumps, EGR become unusable). Thirdly, diesel engines turned out to be less reliable than gasoline ones.
Turbine- often begins to whistle on a run of 70-90 thousand km, and at 120-150 thousand km it needs to be replaced. There can be two reasons for the failure of the turbine - a failure of the boost sensor, or poor contact in the sensor wiring.
Glow plugs- often become the culprits of the difficult start of the power unit with the advent of cold weather, on average, their resource is 80-100 thousand km.
Fuel Rail Pressure Regulator Sensor- not famous for reliability, if it malfunctions, problems arise with starting the engine.
Increased oil consumption- after 100,000 km, the engine starts to eat up oil. At first, no more than 150-200 grams go from replacement to replacement, but closer to 200,000 kilometers, the consumption can be about 300 grams per 1,000 kilometers.
Front crankshaft oil seal- needs to be replaced on a run of 60-90 thousand km, owners of cars with a 1.6-liter engine often face a problem.
Transmission
Mechanics- the reliability of this type of transmission cannot be judged unambiguously, for some the box does not require intervention up to 200,000 km, for others, after 40-60 thousand km, it begins to bother with frequent breakdowns. The first troubles can be presented by the "connecting" link of the clutch - the release bearing, which often becomes unusable after 50,000 km. The clutch itself takes care of up to 150,000 km. Another trouble is peculiar to these boxes - noisy work. The main reasons are insufficient oil level in the box or the presence of wear in the input shaft bearing seat.
By 150,000 km of run, the gear rims of the gear, the synchronizer clutch and the third gear blocking ring begin to wear out. So, if the transmission began to crackle and rest when shifting gears, prepare about 300 USD. for repairs. At each maintenance, do not forget to check the condition of the anthers of the CV joints, since on some specimens they are made of low-quality material and by 50,000 km they begin to poison the lubricant. There is no oil change schedule in this box, but service center specialists recommend changing it at least once every 100,000 km.
Automatic transmission (A4CF1)- buying a second-hand car with an automatic transmission is a risky business, since the machine does not present many problems, only if it is serviced in a timely manner (every 50,000 km). If the box was not followed, serious problems can begin closer to 120,000 km. The solenoids wear out the fastest (the control unit no longer understands in which position the selector and the box goes into emergency operation) and the valve body. Of the minor troubles, the unreliability of sensors and wiring can be noted. On cars of the first years of production, problems with the output shaft are possible, as a rule, the disease manifests itself on a run of 100-150 thousand km. Subject to all operating rules, the resource of the box will be about 250,000 km.
Reliability of the suspension, steering and brakes Kia Ceed
The Kia Ceed implements the most popular suspension layout to date: McPherson front, multi-link rear. In good condition, the suspension is quite energy-intensive and provides good handling. In repair, the suspension is relatively inexpensive due to the possibility of separate replacement of consumables.
Resource of the main elements:
- Stabilizer struts: front - 30-40 thousand km, rear - 60,000 km.
- Stabilizer bushings: front - 40-50 thousand km, rear - up to 80,000 km.
- Shock absorbers - 70-90 thousand km.
- Ball bearings - 80-100 thousand km.
- Wheel bearings - up to 100,000 km
- Silent blocks of the front levers - 90-120 thousand km.
- Breakup levers - about 100,000 km.
- Floating silent blocks up to 120,000 km.
- Rear suspension springs - if you often carry three adult passengers in the back seat, they quickly sag.
Steering:
Extraneous knocks in the steering, as a rule, appear after 100,000 km. There may be several sources:
- Shaft play.
- Deterioration of the elastic gear of the electric power steering.
- Steering shaft cardan (spline connections).
- Steering rack bushings - their resource, on average, is 90-120 thousand km, replacement solves the problem for a short time.
- Steering tips - 100-150 thousand km.
Malfunctions of the electric amplifier- the problem is quite common and dangerous, the fact is that if the amplifier fails, it can “bite” the steering wheel.
Brakes:
The brakes are reliable, the only thing that can bother is the parking brake, if you do not use it for a long time, the mechanism and the braided cable turn sour.
- Brake pads: front - 40-60 thousand km, rear - up to 120,000 km.
- Brake discs - 2-3 sets of pads.
Salon and electrics
The quality of finishing materials is at a high level, especially considering the class of the car. As for the crickets in the cabin, opinions differ here, since a lot depends on the year of manufacture, whose assembly of the car and operating conditions. For some, the number of crickets in the cabin grows in parallel with age, for others, after 5-8 years, there is not a single extraneous sound in the cabin. In any case, such a disadvantage is unlikely to significantly affect when choosing a car and is eliminated for a penny, another thing is the reliability of electrical equipment. Kia Ceed electronics cannot be called too capricious, but it can still deliver certain inconveniences. The main cause of failures in electronics is the weak contacts of the connection connectors. For the same reason, difficulties may arise when starting the engine (the immobilizer fails). Of the common malfunctions, one can note the failure of the window lift mechanisms and malfunctions of the head unit.
What is the result?
Kia Ceed is quite an interesting option for purchase, not only due to acceptable reliability, but also the low cost of acquiring and further maintaining the car. However, today it is not so easy to find a Kia Ceed in good condition and with untwisted mileage, therefore, before buying a car, we recommend that you carry out professional diagnostics of the copy you like.
If you have experience in operating this car model, please tell us what problems and difficulties you had to face. Perhaps it is your review that will help readers of our site when choosing a car.
When the first generation Kia Ceeds were new, they attracted motorists with their fresh European design, nimble engines and good prices. And now, after some time, you can judge how reliable these cars are and what you need to pay attention to when buying. KIA Sid with mileage.
Even though the Cee'd looks like a European car, its paintwork immediately betrays that it is an Asian car. It must be protected so that scratches and chips do not appear so often, because The paintwork of the Kia Sid is very delicate., and the varnish applied to the plastic peels off even better.
But the quality of the metal is quite good, the body does not immediately rust in those places where there is no paint. The only thing that can spoil the appearance of a car over time is the corrosion that appears on the roof rails, as a rule, it appears after about 2 years, especially if the car is not in the garage. Further, the paint under the trunk lid may swell, and when choosing a used car, especially among the earliest models, you must definitely check the bottom of the doors and spring cups are the most vulnerable places for corrosion in Cee'd.
Vehicle interior
As in any car, Sid's electrics do not like dampness, if the contacts on the connectors are oxidized, the immobilizer, wipers, electric lock for the tailgate may stop working, so you need to make sure that there is no oxidation on the wiring connectors. Basically, this applies to cars whose age exceeds 5 years. Such things can happen with an air conditioner - it happens that cold air stops flowing, in which case you need to check the condenser, its walls are quite thin, and for cars whose age is about 6 years, the lower honeycombs can rot to holes through which the refrigerant will exit to street.
Climate control is sometimes a hassle too, especially if the electric dampers break down, each of which will cost $ 20. For those owners who bought cars at dealerships, they immediately changed the control unit under warranty. It also happens that over time, the cabin temperature sensor fails and the display shows + 60 ° C overboard, but this is not a cause for concern - quite simply clean the external temperature sensor from dirt installed behind the front bumper.
Sufficiently delicate windshields were installed on pre-styling cars, there were times when cracks appeared on them during frost, fortunately, they could be replaced under warranty. And due to the fact that the windshield washer sprays weakly, and belatedly - the brushes are already waving, and the liquid is just starting to flow - the glass is rubbed faster. After restyling in 2009, the washer pump was finalized and as a result, the glass became less rubbed.
Power units for Kia Sid
Kia Cee'd is equipped with Gamma gasoline engines, the volume of which is 1.6 liters and 1.4-liter engines. Most, about 73% of cars on the market are equipped with 1.6-liter gasoline engines, about 13% of cars - with 1.4-liter engines. But these power units are not super-reliable, so they must be carefully checked when buying. Already after 50,000 km. run, floating idle appears, which means throttle body needs cleaning. Low-quality oil and dust entering the intake tract can cause scuffing on the coating of the aluminum cylinder block.
There are frequent cases that already by 150,000 km. mileage will have to change the piston rings, the price of which is approximately $ 40, the connecting rod and main bearings will also require replacement, such a kit will cost $ 90. Of course, you need to refuel with good gasoline so that you do not have to spend money on a new converter, which is not cheap for Sid - $ 1,000.
If after 100,000 km. dips appear during acceleration, this means that already stretched timing chain which costs about $40. There is also an unreliable tensioner, it costs only $ 30, but because of it you can get into the money, if the chain jumps a few teeth, then the pistons will meet the valves, which will eventually lead to an engine overhaul.
Such a fact is noticed that these motors are prone to oil leaks. The front timing cover and valve cover are often covered in oil. The thing is that sealant is used instead of conventional gaskets, and the sealant loses its properties after 5 years. The rear crankshaft oil seal also does not withstand oil pressure over time, so it flows out through it. And if you notice that antifreeze level started to drop and the car leaves white marks behind it, which means it's time to change the cylinder head gasket, fortunately it only costs $20. Antifreeze can start to flow out like this no earlier than after 130,000 km. run.
There is also an interesting feature of Seeds with gasoline engines - a fuel tank that makes interesting sounds similar to pops. The fact is that after 3-4 years the filler plug valve sticks and the absorber has already worked out, its replacement will cost $ 30. So these two parts in a steel tank create a strong vacuum, pops will appear, and if you ignore them, then after a while the gas tank may burst, and this is very unpleasant, especially if there is a considerable amount of gasoline left. The price of a new tank does not exceed $ 500, so you need to watch for unusual sounds and quickly make the right decision to fix the problem.
Diesel engines
Least of all cars with turbodiesels under the hood were produced: 3% of cars with a 1.6-liter engine and 1% of cars with a 2-liter engine. It cannot be said that diesel engines are more reliable than gasoline ones. In most cases, injectors will easily last 150,000 km, and replacing them will require about $ 290 from your wallet. With regards to the Bosch injection pump, there are 250,000 km. won't create any problems. But there were times when Garrett turbochargers had to be changed after 100,000 km. mileage, and their price is rather big - 670 dollars.
But these are all trifles compared to what happens to pistons after 100,000 km. run, - cracks appear on them, and the cylinder block cast from cast iron is also seriously worn out. The price of such a block is about 1100 dollars. But now there is no need to change it - there are specialists who can restore the cylinder block by inserting repair sleeves there, like on a Zhiguli. It is also important to notice dips and jerks at about 2000 rpm, which means that boost pressure sensor gone, which is priced at $25. But if the engine does not start, then you can check the fuel pressure sensor, it could fail, its price does not exceed $ 250.
And the best option for KIA Sid is considered to be a 2-liter gasoline engine from the Beta series. This is a good old motor, created in 1997 and modified in 2002. It uses a cast-iron cylinder block, a timing belt. Such a motor can easily withstand 250,000 km. and more. The only thing that can cause problems is the ignition coils, which can burn out after 40,000 km. There are also glitches at the coolant temperature sensor, so the engine can overheat when driving in traffic jams.
Transmission
In the case of KIA Sid, it is better to choose an automatic than a mechanic. Together with a 1.6-liter engine, an automatic transmission quietly serves at least 250,000 km, if you change the oil every 70,000. The box is not particularly agile, because there are 4 steps, but due to the fact that the design is simple, it is reliable. Sometimes it happens that after 150,000 km. mileage there are shocks when switching, this is due to the torque converter lock-up solenoids or valve body valves, but this rarely happens.
As for the mechanical box, there are continuous problems here: gears, synchronizer clutches, gear rims wear out quickly. Already after 140,000 km. the box starts to crackle and gears are hard to insert. And you need to change the clutch disc even earlier. The release bearing costs about $ 20, and the clutch disc costs 70 US rubles.
Suspension
You also need to monitor the anthers of the CV joints, after 50,000 km. grease may leak from them. For $70, you can buy a set of rubber bands that will ultimately save you about $450, which is how much the axle shaft will cost with both pivots.
In general, the KIA Seed suspension is also considered not very reliable. After 60000 km. mileage usually has to change shock absorbers, for Sid - from Mando, the front ones cost $ 120, and the rear ones 160. Also, along with the shock absorbers, it is customary to change the wheel bearings, the front ones can be bought separately, but the rear ones come with the hub, it turns out more expensive.
On early models, the rear shock absorbers made a rumble during operation, these shock absorbers were changed under warranty, but after 20,000 km they started to rumble again. Already in 2009, during restyling, the shock absorbers were finalized and the roar passed. Consumables are front stabilizer struts, where the lower hinge is poorly sealed. These struts cost $12 each, but sometimes they don't last even 20,000 km. run.
The brakes in the car are quite reliable, especially if you lubricate the caliper guides every 2 years. The discs themselves can easily withstand about 70,000 km. If during braking the car begins to wear to the sides, then be sure to need to check silent blocks front suspension arms, if they are worn out, then the car will wag when braking, these silent blocks cost $ 7. But the silent blocks on the rear suspension age without any special signs, after about 80 thousand km. they need to be changed.
The electric power steering is usually not a problem. There were cases that on cars older than 2009, unsuccessful gears came across, which caused knocking after 60 thousand km. run. The steering gear is $970, so it's good to have it replaced under warranty. Therefore, when buying a used car, you need to check whether there are knocks and other rattling while turning the wheel. But in most cases, tie rods, which cost $12 apiece, can be the cause of the knock.
As for its money, Sid is a normal car, it does not differ in particular reliability, and where can you find a non-breaking car now. Cee'd's advantages are that it is cheaper than competitors in the class (Volkswagen Golf and Toyota Auris) by about 100,000 rubles, but the Peugeot 308 and Opel Astra cost the same as Sid. And there is such a car as the Ford Focus, so it costs less, and even lasts longer, it is more reliable in general.
But for those who want buy KIA Sid- it is best to choose a model after restyling, younger than 2009, with a 2-liter engine and an automatic transmission. With this configuration, problems will be the least.
Crash test results
In the famous Euro NCAP crash test, the Cee'd hatchback participated and scored a very high score: 34 out of 36 possible. Even though the clutch pedal moved 100mm during the frontal impact, this did not stop the car from getting a high score. The car also passed the side crash tests with the maximum score. Protection for child passengers is also quite good - 4 out of 5. But safety for pedestrians is extremely low - 2 out of 5. And all because the front bumper of the Kia Sid is extremely traumatic, so if you are walking at a pedestrian crossing and see this car, then run away from her.
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