Renault fluence 1.6 engine description. We buy Renault Fluence with mileage

29.06.2020

Renault Fluence appeared on the domestic market in 2010. The assembly of the French sedan was carried out in Russia at the Moscow Avtoframos plant and in Turkey. In addition, the model was assembled in Argentina, India, Malaysia and South Korea. Technically, Fluence is almost identical to the third Megan, besides, they are built on the same platform - Renailt-Nissan C.

Engines

In the arsenal of official Renault Fluence, there are only gasoline aspirated engines: 1.6 liters (106 hp / K4M and 116 hp / H4M) and 2.0 liters (138 hp / M4R). In Europe, diesel versions were also available - with 1.5 and 1.6 dCi. There are no diesel modifications on the secondary market.

The 2-liter engine and the 1.6-liter H4M have a reliable chain-type timing drive. K4M is equipped with a timing belt drive with an interservice replacement interval of 60,000 km (5,000 rubles per set).

The 1.6-liter K4M is the most widely used. Its weak point is the phase regulator, which wears out after 100-120 thousand km. First, a characteristic crack appears, and then - failures in traction and interruptions in the operation of the engine. The cost of a new phase regulator is 5,000 rubles. It is recommended to update it with the second replacement of the timing belt - at 120,000 km.

One of the mysterious phenomena that occurs with Renault Fluence is the difficulty in starting a cold engine after a long stop. When contacting the service, dealers reflashed the engine ECU, cleaned the throttle, changed nozzles and spark plugs. But preventive procedures did not help everyone.

Starting problems can also arise due to a blown starter fuse, retractor relay, or even the starter itself (6,000 rubles).

After 50-80 thousand km, it is often necessary to change the thermostat. It wedges, or it starts to leak, which leads to the mixing of oil with antifreeze. The cost of a new part is about 5,000 rubles.

Sometimes the fuel level sensor starts to fool, which changes as an assembly with a gasoline pump (from 16,000 rubles). In addition, the crankshaft seals may leak.

Over time, from sudden temperature changes (for example, after overcoming deep puddles), the heat shield of the muffler is deformed and begins to touch the elements of the exhaust system, making an unpleasant ringing. In this case, it is enough to bend the thermal protection to an acceptable position. In the morning, the muffler itself can accompany the warming up of the engine with a metallic ringing. And by 100-120 thousand km, the sealing ring of the exhaust system (150 rubles) often burns out - a characteristic roar appears.

In pre-styling cars with manual transmission, after 50-100 thousand km, the engine mount bolt often broke off, which incidentally led to damage to the reverse sensor and internal grenade. Later the problem was solved - a more powerful bolt was installed.

Transmission

Renault Fluence with a 1.6 liter engine was equipped with a 5-speed manual gearbox (JH3) or a 4-speed "automatic" (AL4 / DP0). After restyling, it was replaced by a variator (JF015). The 2-liter engine was combined with a 6-speed manual or CVT.

The main complaint about the “mechanics” is twitching at the moment of start after a long movement in a traffic jam. Dealers updated the clutch kit under warranty if the mileage did not exceed the mark of 30,000 km. According to them, the problem is in the clutch disc, which the manufacturer later upgraded. But after the replacement, the problem often arose again. At the same time, the clutch master cylinder or release bearing could require attention.

After 80-100 thousand km, some owners note the appearance of extraneous noise in the manual transmission. Mechanics claim that this is a feature of her work - bearings howl.

In winter, after overnight parking, the gear lever often becomes tight or does not move. The reason is the freezing of moisture that has fallen under the cable jacket. Drying and lubricating the assembly eliminates the problem for a short time. It is better to replace the cable - 4,000 rubles.

Owners of automatic transmissions often complain about jolts when shifting. The problem appears after 20 - 30 thousand km. The culprit is the pressure modulation solenoid valve. By 100-150 thousand km, almost all automatic machines pass through its replacement. The cost of the procedure is about 15,000 rubles. With regular oil updates, the automatic transmission will last 300-350 thousand km until a major overhaul.

The variator worried the owners no less. Sometimes he began to creak, grunt and gnash. The problem was known to the manufacturer. Everything happened due to the sagging of the variator belt at engine speeds of 900–1100 rpm or more. "Treatment" was carried out by updating the program for managing the operation of the variator.

After 50-100 thousand km, jerks and shocks sometimes appear. It's all about the vulnerable pressure reducing valve of the variator pump. The sun gear and bearings can also fail. For repairs, you will need about 50-60 thousand rubles. With skillful handling and timely maintenance, the variator is able to cover 200-250 thousand km without repair.

Chassis

The suspension, like most modern cars, can creak in the cold. More often than not, the stabilizer bushings are to blame.

After 30 - 50 thousand km, the anthers of the front suspension struts were often torn. Dealers made a replacement, provided that the mileage at the time of contact did not exceed 30,000 km. As a substitute, strut anthers from the VAZ 2110 are ideal, and as a bump stop - an analogue from the VAZ 2108. The shock absorbers themselves serve more than 100-150 thousand km.

Front levers (from 3,000 rubles apiece) may require replacement after 60-100 thousand km. Silent blocks fail, and a little later - ball bearings.

Due to a defect in the area of the spline connection, some owners were faced with the appearance of knocks that give off to the steering wheel when driving through bumps. The steering rack sometimes starts knocking after 100-150 thousand km.

It is worth noting a few unpleasant incidents that occurred with 2-liter Fluences in winter. At the most inopportune moment, the brakes failed - the brake pedal “got stuck”. The reason is the freezing of the brake valve of the vacuum hose. Dealers put an extra cover on the hose as a countermeasure. The Fluence braking system with the 1.6L engine is slightly different - no such incidents have been recorded with it.

Body and interior

Over time, the trunk lid begins to wipe the paintwork of the rear bumper. Dealers recognize the case as a warranty case and repaint problem areas. Also, many people notice the appearance of scuffs from the rear door seals.

The chrome on the rear emblem may "swell" after the first winter. Similar problems are found on the front emblem, the lower trim of the radiator grille and the PTF overlays.

Salon Renault Fluence soon begins to creak. The rattling appears around the seat belt and front head restraints. The steering wheel sometimes climbed already in the first year of operation. And in winter, leather inserts on the front seats often burst.

"Winter drops" from the ceiling light or front visors for a modern car is not uncommon. A similar phenomenon is observed here as well.

Conclusion

Many units, such as the engine and gearboxes, were used on Renault Megan of the second generation, and after modernization they were installed on a new model. Apparently, the work to improve the units was carried out hastily and not deep enough, since some of the "sores" migrated from there.

After buying a new Renault Fluence, few people think about the engine resource. But if you buy a car supported, the question immediately rises sharply. It is better to know in advance how much a car purchased from hand is able to pass. Many car enthusiasts believe that each engine has approximately the same mileage limit, but this is not the case. After all, they are unique, differ in the structure of volumes and, of course, reliability.

Engine K4M 1.6 l.

This 1.6-liter engine was created with the commonwealth of Renault-Nissan companies. It was developed in 1999 at the Renault ESPANA plant. Although the motor is already obsolete, it is still installed on various cars because of its simplicity and reliability.

The power of this Renault Fluence engine is 115 hp, fuel consumption in the urban cycle according to the manufacturer is 11.7 liters, on the highway 7.1 liters.

The motor has a high efficiency at low speeds, which is strange for a naturally aspirated gasoline engine with a medium displacement. Unlike the 2.0L, it runs more quietly and without vibrations.

Of the minuses can be called expensive repairs, spare parts will cost a round sum. Also, when the belt breaks, the valves are deformed, so the rollers should be changed every 60-70 thousand.

Another point - the 1.6 engine on Renault can suddenly start, usually this is due to a malfunction of the ignition coil or the crankshaft position sensor. It is treated with a regular replacement, but sometimes you just need to reset the error, and the car will drive as before.

Engine resource K4M 1.6 l.

This Renault Fluence engine has good characteristics for increasing power by installing a turbocharger or a compressor. The only problem is the lack of KIT assemblies for this motor. The main disadvantage is the reduction of its resource. The Renault Fluence motor can easily cover at least 400 thousand km with proper care. The factory does not give any data regarding the maximum mileage of the K4M 1.6 liters. But empirically, the motor has proven its reliability, car owners praise it for its high reliability and simplicity. In order for the engine to reach the milestone of 400 thousand km, it is important to monitor it.

A few rules that increase the operating time of the motor:

Timely oil change.

If you follow this item, your car will constantly delight with dynamics, because oil plays one of the main roles.

According to the regulations for Renault Fluence, oil should be changed every 15 thousand, but in our harsh weather, the best solution would be every 10 thousand, since winter is even more stress at the start, fresher oil reduces its wear.

Air filter replacement.

The filter also plays an important role, the more and cleaner oxygen enters the engine, the higher its efficiency and resource. Over time, the filter ceases to be a protective link and passes various foreign bodies and dust. Water entering the combustion chamber can cause serious problems.

Monitor the cooling system.

It is imperative to check the level of the coolant, because a pipe may burst somewhere, and the Renault 1.6 engine in a traffic jam will quickly overheat. After that, big problems can appear. You should also take the choice of liquid seriously; you should not fill in brands that are not recommended by the manufacturer.

Summarizing

These are standard rules that will help you drive for many years without major car repairs. Many are mistaken in thinking that if you drive slowly and calmly, the Renault Fluence 1.6 engine will last longer. Be sure to sometimes drive at high speeds so that all the "garbage" comes out. After all, carbon deposits from oil accumulate on the walls over time, which reduces the life of the engine.

Many owners do not monitor the motor at all, without even looking under the hood, because the motor will quietly pass 100 thousand, and there is a guarantee for it. But the dealer will not replace it under warranty when, after diagnosing and disassembling, it realizes that it was working at its limit, without lubricants, or was overheated.

Renault Fluence

In general, the cons of Renault Fluence are the flip side of its merits. Buying relatively cheap (from 579,000 rubles at the beginning of November) a large spacious car, the owner expects the quality of its interior and dynamics to match the size. However, despite its 4618 mm length, there are no super-powerful motors in the engine lineup, and the interior trim is not amazing. Also, Fluence, like any other model, has design flaws and weaknesses, such as massive trunk hinges and wipers that scratch the windshield. But, first things first - below is an excerpt from the reviews of the owners on the topic of shortcomings.

It should be noted right away that fans of high-speed driving will be disappointed with the capabilities of the model, since the 1.6-liter sedan engine is rather weak for racing. Its slowness is especially strongly felt during overtaking when driving along the highway. In the city, this disadvantage is leveled.

A significant disadvantage is the behavior of the car in winter. In 30-degree frosts, the engine sometimes does not start at all, so you have to look for alternative transportation options.

A car equipped with a manual transmission often has problems engaging reverse gear. In this case, it is required to make an effort, and more than once. The equipment with an “automatic” also does not cause delight, since there is a clear lethargy in the operation of the box.

Drivers are dissatisfied with the loud noise that appears in the cabin when the car is moving at high speed, as well as when entering areas with damaged asphalt. The reason for this may be both insufficient sound insulation of the body, and the budget Bridgestone Turanza, chosen by the manufacturer for the factory equipment of the sedan. In addition to noise, this rubber also holds the road poorly.

Due to the large A-pillars, visibility worsens, so the driver has to turn his head and very actively to assess the situation on the road. Music lovers will be disappointed, as regular "music" does not meet modern ideas about sound quality. Therefore, it is necessary to order the installation for a surcharge of a better audio system with an expanded number of useful functions.

Salon trimmed with cheap materials. Does not differ in frills and trim torpedo. The driver's seat does not have lumbar and side supports, which makes it difficult to get comfortable in the chair. Adds inconvenience non-adjustable angle headrest and too small armrest. The back of the driver's seat does not fall into a flat floor, creating a bump in the lumbar region.

Rigid door opening due to fuzzy closers. Moreover, the doors in some cars can rattle due to torn, hanging down waves, insulating gum. With this problem, you can safely contact the dealers to eliminate the factory defect. We'll have to put up with the "crickets" that appear in the doors, under the front panel, somewhere on the ceiling.

The large volume of the luggage compartment is a definite plus of Renault Fluence. However, massive trunk hinges take up useful space inside. Opening the trunk directly from the passenger compartment is also not provided.

Many claims are also made to the wipers, which, after several thousand runs, begin to scratch the windshield. not covered under warranty. The lack of heated wipers adds to the problems in the winter.

There have been cases of low beam lamps burning out in cars that have "run" 30,000 km. At the same time, independent replacement of lamps is difficult, especially the one located on the left. You can get to it only after dismantling the battery.

The disadvantages include recommendations for changing the oil, which must be carried out every 7500 km. The cost of maintenance after a run of 15,000 km, which is about 10 thousand rubles, is also high. For comparison, Mazda 6 and Ford Mondeo charge only 6 thousand rubles for maintenance. TO-60 will cost more than twice as much, for which Renault dealers demand 23 thousand rubles.

Accuracy is required when driving and parking, as the Renault Fluence paintwork is quite delicate. If you want to sell or change the car, there may be problems with sales, because this model is not particularly in demand in the secondary market.

Good afternoon, dear readers. I want to leave a review on the Renault Fluence car, maybe for someone it will be informative and help to make or vice versa not make a choice in favor of this car.

The car was purchased in 2017 from a friend to replace the Volkswagen Jetta 1.4 TSI DSG 2011. It is with this car that a French (Turkish?) car will be compared. Briefly about the Jetta:

The car was purchased from OD in 2011 in a trendline configuration with two packages that included everything you need, incl. rain sensors light, cruise control. Passed by car 110,000 km.

The following problems came up while owning the car:

Turned off the turbine (replaced under warranty)

Cracked headlight in the area of running lights (headlight sore Jett, replaced under warranty)

A gearbox error fell out at 55,000 km, the clutch was sentenced, replaced under warranty, when issuing the car, the car refused to go back, the mechatronics was sentenced, a total of one and a half months without a car, but they delivered it for free, due to the 5-year warranty on the DSG, they assured that they had supplied reinforced, however...

At 95,000, vibration began in 1-2 gears, again under warranty (I managed to) they sentenced the clutch, to the reasonable question "what about the reinforced clutch" they shrugged their shoulders and changed it without question

At 80,000 km near the house, the bypass belt broke, it was not replaced under warranty.

As can be seen from the history of breakdowns, the main problems concerned the box, but upon reaching 100,000 km they were successfully solved by a guarantee, from the little things - a torn belt and light bulbs for 5 years, contrary to popular belief, there was practically no oil consumption, and it was small from a b% vile Castrol, after pouring Motul everything was normal.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH HER.

Thus, the machine served faithfully for 5 years and was sold at a discount of almost 40% of the price of a new car, which is pretty much the same, because of the illiquid combination of DSG and TSI, and the difficult situation in the secondary market at the beginning of 2017.

The main reason for the sale of the Jetta was the box and the reluctance to invest 40k rubles in the clutch every 50,000 km, as well as the fact that the Volkswagen is a fairly cold car. In winter, I didn’t want to warm up on the spot, I didn’t particularly save Webast. After the start of movement, the coolant arrow fell, and the car warmed up only after 3 kilometers, when it was already driving to work.

Just at that time, an acquaintance was selling Fluence with a mileage of 45,000 km in a rather bold configuration, including:

Keyless entry (was not in the Jetta);

Power mirrors (was not in the Jetta);

Climate control (was not in the Jetta);

Paddle music control (was not in the Jetta);

Usb, bluetooth, aux (was not in the Jetta).

Unlike the maximum configuration, there was no cruise, navigation and skin (although I could be wrong).

Impression

Now in order:

ENGINE. Here is H4M/HR16DE 1.6 liter 16V 114 hp. produced by Nissan. The motor is not bad, not demanding on gasoline, with the recommended 95th, pour 92. The timing system uses a chain, it is quite reliable here, there is a system for changing the valve timing, the phase shifter is installed on the intake shaft, an electronic throttle is used, valve clearances need to be adjusted, there are no hydraulic lifters (a terrible collective farm, as for me).

Eats in the city in winter all 12 liters, in summer - 10, on the highway it fit into 6.5 liters. From replacement to replacement, Elf gobbled up about a third of the dipstick oil, which, in principle, is normal for this engine.

The engine is not for racing, the CVT allows you to stay in the stream, but nothing more, you can safely retire yourself no further than the second row, otherwise you can sentence a gentle CVT.

Compared to 1.4 TSI with a torque of 200 Nm, Rno Fluence was a little more than completely dull, during acceleration, the Jetta pressed into the chair and allowed you to leave, when necessary, from the traffic light and exit from the surrounding area.

In fact, the TSI engine is good in its characteristics, with a timely oil and timing chain change (change the chain at 100,000 km, are you serious about Volkswagen?), it runs its 200,000 km, giving pleasure to the owner, but it would be better to buy a new VAG after 100,000 km.

Jatco BOX from Nissan, I don’t know the technical details about this box, but I would like to note its smooth operation without jerks, which provides quite peppy acceleration for a car of such a mass and a stunted engine.

I try to adhere to the following operating rules: warm in cold weather, do not skid, move smoothly. I changed the oil for 55,000 km with the replacement of the fine filter, the oil was like new, there were practically no sawdust on the magnets, it was possible not to change it, but I was safe, especially since the previous owner never fried it, and even tried not to take a car.

After the replacement, I drove 5,000 km, there are no problems, the level is kept. Grandmas in the yard say that the resource is something like 200,000 km with timely maintenance and a quiet ride.

SALON. Let's just say that on the Jetta at 110k km the interior was like new, without scratches and scuffs, there are a lot of scratches at 50k mileage, the interior is not very presentable. It feels like soft plastic on the dashboard, leather steering wheel, comfortable, music paddles, at first unusual, then very comfortable, almost nothing causes irritation, except for a few things:

Heated ass on the side of the seat cushion, roasts quickly, but is not located logically

The gas pedal is on top, not very convenient, on the Jetta it was on the floor, the leg did not get tired

healthy headrest

Non-closing front deflectors blow in the face of either you or the passenger, even on Logan they close, insulting

No illuminated power window buttons

In general, everything is in its place, however, for me, Volkswagen will always remain an unattainable ideal and an example for other automakers in terms of convenience, the logic of the location of buttons, and the thoughtfulness of the interior.

SUSPENSION. Rather, because of what this car was purchased. The suspension for our roads is simply excellent, a semi-independent rear beam (multi-link in the Jetta), provides a smooth ride comparable to a Mercedes (no kidding), it is unrealistic to break through, rolling in corners, corresponding to its dynamic (pensioner) capabilities.

After the Jetta, the spine rests, they felt every bump there, maybe the package of bad roads that Foltz comes with to our market is to blame (everything that is possible is lifted up, the real clearance on both Renault and Jetta is about 16 cm), I heard that on Octavia suspension is much better (softer) than on the Jetta, in general, there is definitely a plus for Renault for taking care of Russian buyers.

It should be noted the large wheelbase of Fluence 2,702 mm as on the Passat b7 (2,651 mm in the Jetta), which also ensures a smooth ride. I can’t say anything about strength, nothing has changed for 60k mileage, however, in the Jetta for 110 km they also didn’t climb into the suspension at all.

THINGS AND CONCLUSIONS. The trunk is 530 liters, hidden by huge loops, on the Jetta 510 liters, in terms of capacity it turns out to be approximately the same. I don’t like climate control, you still turn the knob depending on the temperature outside.

In frosts, both Renault and Volkswagen start up equally well, I tried the maximum up to -35, everything is fine, Renault is even more cheerful, people swore at the Fluence dorestyle with a renoshny k4m that it starts up badly in cold weather, everything is in order.

Summing up this review, I would like to note that Renault Fluence can be attributed to both B class and C + / D, it has chips of different classes, so it is controversial and not very popular on the secondary market (although the new ones did not sell very well , are not currently officially sold).

Whoever comes across a good version of Fluence, I advise you to take a closer look at this car, but buy with a CVT only from friends, or if you have all the orders for work on its maintenance.

Now, after a year of owning a car, would I buy this car, having the current experience? Rather, yes, but on a 2.0 engine and with a manual transmission, because this car simply has no competitors in terms of price / quality.

Comparing Fluence with Jetta is not entirely logical, a car is bought for different purposes, Foltz allows you to drive a little on good roads, looks great, but requires a little more ownership costs and it is advisable to take a new VAG (if there is a financial opportunity) upon reaching 2-3 years.

Renault is a more pragmatic mode of transport, I would say, utilitarian, like the Kia Rio and the hedgehog with them, to drive the distance from A to B with minimal investment (in total for 1 km of the way, including consumption, consumables for maintenance, etc.) with relative comfort.

The prices for consumables are democratic, unlike Volz, if you take original spare parts, a suspension for Russian roads, a warm spacious interior.

Outcome

As a result, we have a strong, reliable, family car. The consumption could be less, the appearance is a little better, the ergonomics are more ergonomic, but even a car up to 3 million rubles is a compromise to one degree or another, there is no and never will be an ideal car, there is a car that can solve most problems at this stage of your life , and so far Fluence has succeeded. Good luck to everyone, no accidents, cheaper gasoline, abolition of transport tax and all the best to you, hold on, in general.

Renault Fluence engine in Russia, this is a 1.6 or 2 liter gasoline engine. The front-wheel drive Renault Fluence uses a 5-speed manual (or 6 speed) and a CVT stepless variator as a transmission. Let's talk more about the characteristics of these units today.

Firstly, how does a variator differ from an automatic transmission, for example. In stepless variators, there are simply no steps, where the torque from the engine to the wheels is transmitted smoothly, without any jerks. This allows us to talk about smooth running, moderate fuel consumption and comfort. However, there is also a negative side to using such a transmission. The variator is very expensive to repair, and in many cases cannot be repaired at all. Therefore, in our country, a manual transmission is traditionally preferred. Moreover, in combination with a 2 liter engine, the manufacturer offers a 6-speed manual.

As for Renault Fluence power units, these are 16-valve 4-cylinder engines of various sizes. The power of the 1.6 liter is 106 hp, and the 2 liter produces 137 horses, which is not very good by today's standards. The Renault Fluence engines themselves are also installed on the Renault Duster. In Turkey, for example, Renault Fluence with a 1.5-liter diesel engine is very popular, but in our country you will not see such a motor on a Fluence sedan. For that, you can watch it all on the same Renault Duster.

An important question that interests many timing belt or chain Renault Fluence. The answer to the question is very simple. A 1.6-liter engine has a timing belt, and a 2.0-liter engine has a chain, which is more reliable and practical.

Engine characteristics Renault Fluence 1.6 (78 kW) manual transmission5

Working volume - 1598 cm3
Number of cylinders - 4
Number of valves - 16
Horsepower - 106 at 6000 rpm
Torque - 145 Nm at 4250 rpm
Maximum speed - 183 kilometers per hour
Acceleration to the first hundred - 11.7 seconds
Fuel consumption in the urban cycle - 8.8 liters
Extra-urban fuel consumption - 5.4 liters
Combined fuel consumption - 6.7 liters

The most interesting thing is that the Renault Fluence engine of the same volume of 1.6 liters in combination with a CVT variator has more power. The secret here is that this motor is somewhat upgraded specifically for the CVT. As a result, acceleration and fuel consumption indicators practically do not differ between a manual gearbox and a variator.

Engine characteristics Renault Fluence 1.6 (84 kW) CVT

Working volume - 1598 cm3
Number of cylinders - 4
Number of valves - 16
Horsepower - 114 at 6000 rpm
Torque - 155 Nm at 4000 rpm
Maximum speed - 175 kilometers per hour
Acceleration to the first hundred - 11.9 seconds
Fuel consumption in the urban cycle - 8.9 liters
Extra-urban fuel consumption - 5.2 liters
Combined fuel consumption - 6.6 liters

A more powerful motor is offered with the same CVT as a transmission, or with a 6-speed manual. instead of a 5-speed gearbox.

Engine characteristics Renault Fluence 2.0 (101 kW)

Working volume - 1997 cm3
Number of cylinders - 4
Number of valves - 16
Horsepower - 137 at 6000 rpm
Torque - 190 Nm at 3700 rpm
Maximum speed - 200,195 kilometers per hour
Acceleration to the first hundred - 9.9 (MKPP6) - 10.1 (CVT) seconds
Fuel consumption in the urban cycle - 10.0 (MKPP6) - 10.5 (CVT) liters
Extra-urban fuel consumption - 6.2 (MT6) - 6.2 (CVT) liters
Fuel consumption in the combined cycle - 8.0 (MKPP6) - 7.8 (CVT) liters

As in the case of the 1.6 engine, the performance of the two-liter Renault Fluence engine is practically the same, depending on the manual or continuously variable CVT transmission. This is a big advantage of CVTs over traditional automatics, which make any car more voracious and slower than a manual transmission.